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Old 11-07-2024, 03:28 PM   #21
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They have been very clear they want to be competitive
People can ignore it but that’s what they’ve said
What line up is likely more effective:

Zary - Kadri - Kuzmenko
Huberdeau - Sharangovich - Pospisil
Coleman - Backlund - Coronato
Lomberg - Rooney - Kirkland
Hunt

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Zary - Kadri - Kuzmenko
Huberdeau - Sharangovich - Coronato
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Lomberg - Pospisil - Klapka
Kirkland

I'd argue the second line up does a better job of working young talent into the roster, and is actually more effective on the ice as well.

Also keeps the 4th lines identity as a bigger, more physical line. And continues to develop Pospisil as a center longer term. (He started the game against Montreal on the 4th line too, so not like they are against having him there)

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Old 11-07-2024, 03:29 PM   #22
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Not sure what the problem is. He likely won't even play and he's a known quantity.

The other guys with more future potential should keep getting more minutes in the AHL.
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Old 11-07-2024, 03:30 PM   #23
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Duehr indeed makes more sense than a guy like Rory
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What line up is likely more effective:

Zary - Kadri - Kuzmenko
Huberdeau - Sharangovich - Pospisil
Coleman - Backlund - Coronato
Lomberg - Rooney - Kirkland
Hunt

or

Zary - Kadri - Kuzmenko
Huberdeau - Sharangovich - Coronato
Pelletier - Backlund - Coleman
Lomberg - Pospisil - Klapka
Kirkland

I'd argue the second line up does a better job of working young talent into the roster, and is actually more effective on the ice as well.

Also keeps the 4th lines identity as a bigger, more physical line. And continues to develop Pospisil as a center longer term. (He started the game against Montreal on the 4th line too, so not like they are against having him there)
I mean it’s kinda the same except Pelletier on the roster instead of Rooney
Which I’m down for but also don’t think it matters much either way
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Old 11-07-2024, 03:34 PM   #25
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Yeah this makes total sense for the role that is available, though i suppose Walker Duehr could have been an option as well....LH shot is likely the deciding factor.

Anyone still thinking this club isn't trying to win hockey games hasn't been paying attention.

Conroy/Huska are most definitely trying to ice the best team they can every night.
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Old 11-07-2024, 03:34 PM   #26
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Don't get the Hunt hate. Y'all love the Kirkland story (plucky AHL veteran gets a shot in the bigs).
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Those who are cheering for Pelletier to succeed should be happy he wasn't called up. It probably means Flames management prefers he gets his minutes in, continues to work on the things they've asked him to work on and they don't need to risk putting him on waivers again.
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Old 11-07-2024, 03:37 PM   #28
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I don’t really understand the trying to win hockey games angle as the top priority, certainly not this year with the conditions on the Habs pick. Not that I think Hunt moves the needle, but more so the philosophy.
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Old 11-07-2024, 03:41 PM   #29
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Kerrins looked lost last year and may be finding it.

Pelletier went through an injury plagued season and is trying to get his confidence back.

I love youth and getting a look as much as the next guy but the GM doesn't just look at the team rankings in points in the AHL and make his call up based on only that.

Development is king.

They must feel it's better to leave those two alone.

Duehr makes more sense for sure, but Hunt had the better camp so I get that angle too.
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I don’t really understand the trying to win hockey games angle as the top priority, certainly not this year with the conditions on the Habs pick. Not that I think Hunt moves the needle, but more so the philosophy.
Its their job.
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I don’t really understand the trying to win hockey games angle as the top priority, certainly not this year with the conditions on the Habs pick. Not that I think Hunt moves the needle, but more so the philosophy.
Craig Conroy - "...one thing you don’t want to do, you never want to accept losing because you can’t just tell a team, “Now we’re going to turn it on and win” with people who’ve gotten used to losing. For me, that doesn’t work."

How you do one thing is how you do everything.
Can't tell the players that they need to work hard and compete and then have the management and coaching staff do the opposite.
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Craig Conroy - "...one thing you don’t want to do, you never want to accept losing because you can’t just tell a team, “Now we’re going to turn it on and win” with people who’ve gotten used to losing. For me, that doesn’t work."



How you do one thing is how you do everything.

Can't tell the players that they need to work hard and compete and then have the management and coaching staff do the opposite.
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Old 11-07-2024, 03:44 PM   #33
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Hunt isnt playing tonight...he might not play Saturday. Flames are home Saturday night.

Some of you are kinda ridiculous...you want so and so on a plane or in a pressbox vs. playing big AHL minutes
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Old 11-07-2024, 03:54 PM   #34
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The fourth line has a certain role on this team. Calling up a guy like Rory to try and fill a role he’s not suited to doesn’t make sense
Ryan Huska has an extremely outdated view on what a 4th line should be. He talked about it.

You need speed and skill up and down the lineup.

If you want muckers and grinders maybe you should be coaching in the ECHL.
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The fourth line has a certain role on this team. Calling up a guy like Rory to try and fill a role he’s not suited to doesn’t make sense
So you let him centre the Huby line and move Sharangovich back to the wing where he belongs
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Hunt isnt playing tonight...he might not play Saturday. Flames are home Saturday night.

Some of you are kinda ridiculous...you want so and so on a plane or in a pressbox vs. playing big AHL minutes
No, I want to have a look at a guy who can play centre in a top 6 role. Who says he has to play 4th line?
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Old 11-07-2024, 03:58 PM   #37
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28+ year old career tweeners are not helping you win hockey games now, nor in the future, though, that's why it's a waste. I am sure they are all lovely people but Hunt, Kirkland, and Rooney are AHL players through and through. We all know this. They provide nothing of value at the highest level. Guys like Klapka, Pelletier and Morton for example can absolutely learn and develop while taking a regular shift at the NHL level. We already know they are capable producers at the lower levels. Yes, they very well may end up being just another Hunt level tweener but we won't know that until they are given the runway to show as much. They aren't 20 years old either.
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They should have recalled the ghost of Matthew Phillips. Amateurs.
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So you let him centre the Huby line and move Sharangovich back to the wing where he belongs
And which winger goes down to 4th line. Kuzmenko does not suit the 4th line at all. It would either be Coronato or pospisil. Both of which I rather in the top 9 instead of keirns
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They should have recalled the ghost of Matthew Phillips. Amateurs.
Every time people wring their hands over callups and guys “not getting a chance” all I think about is how worked up people got over Phillips and my eyes immediately glaze over.

28 year old Hunt on the 4th line/press box instead of 25 year old Morton?

My God. Fire everyone.
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