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Old 10-14-2024, 07:31 PM   #381
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One thing I don't understand about McDavid on that play. He's the fastest skater in the league so why didn't he just catch up to Rasmus in the neutral zone? He just tries to lift the stick from behind a bunch of times.

I mean I guess my question answers itself in a way...
You're suggesting a defensive play one learns at 10, Not him, he wants to steal the puck, go the other way and play the god like hero.
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Old 10-14-2024, 08:13 PM   #382
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Think that’s why Backlund tomahawked Skinner’s achilles
If by "tomahawked" you mean "lightly tapped one-handed" then yes.
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Old 10-14-2024, 08:29 PM   #383
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Gotta love winning in Edmonton!

Was amazed at the Oilers lack of resiliency. A couple disallowed goals and some physical play and they just gave up. The Flames completely dominated the 2nd half of the game and must have had 10 straight shots at one point. Draisaitl looks uninterested and McDavid was invisible save for the power play and goalie pull.
The Flames are a team full of young guys and two way vets with hustle. The flames have some older players, but Kadri, Backlund, and Coleman aren't going to slow a team down or lose their hustle halfway through a game.

The Oilers are just old. They looked older and slower, and that got more pronounced as the game went on.
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Old 10-14-2024, 09:05 PM   #384
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Just looked at a video of him taking a bunch of hits and it’s true, his skate comes up dangerously high quite often. Someone is going to get hurt very bad eventually. Wonder what the talking heads will say when that happens
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So much crying on the radio today.

Francis was guesting with the national guys and of course placating them as they moaned about the Perry no goal.

They said goal was denied solely because it was Perry lol. Even in the realm of sports, petty conspiracy theorists sound sulky and pathetic.

The one guy was so animated too. Relax dude, oilers would've lost even if the goal counted.
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Old 10-14-2024, 09:41 PM   #386
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If Perry can’t hack and slash the goalie and interfere with them how will he ever score a goal again?
Hey now, he can score goals just fine. In fact, he is the Oilers' joint goal-scoring leader!
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Old 10-14-2024, 10:06 PM   #387
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I actually think the Perry no goal was stupid. Sorry but objectively it was. But as mentioned it’s the same stupidity as the Coleman no goal kick in in the playoffs a couple years ago. Except way less important. So nobody should feel sorry for the Oilers at all.
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I actually think the Perry no goal was stupid. Sorry but objectively it was. But as mentioned it’s the same stupidity as the Coleman no goal kick in in the playoffs a couple years ago. Except way less important. So nobody should feel sorry for the Oilers at all.
I tend to agree. Perry did interfere with him with his stick in the feet when he was at the side of the net and if they’d scored then, it definitely should have been called back. But after that when Perry moved to the front of the net, sure he was in the paint a bit but in no way impeded Vlad from making the save.

If this is the new standard, it’s foot in the crease 2.0.

Then again, #### the oilers and #### Perry so I’m good with the call.
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Can someone please explain to me why every single time Mavi gets checked, one leg gets kicked up in the air? I’ve noted it mentally before, but it’s every time and seeing it on that check it looks tremendously awkward.

There’s literally no reason to kick the leg up or for the skate to come up like that.
For the same reason Draisatl throws himself face first into the boards. McPP.
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Old 10-14-2024, 10:13 PM   #390
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I actually think the Perry no goal was stupid. Sorry but objectively it was. But as mentioned it’s the same stupidity as the Coleman no goal kick in in the playoffs a couple years ago. Except way less important. So nobody should feel sorry for the Oilers at all.
Ummm no it wasn't, if you don't know why they paint that area blue I suggest you go look up the interference rules.
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I heard Friedman talking about it today

If someone is in the crease and the goalie can’t get where he wants to be, it is going to be considered goalie interference

He thought it looks soft, but that’s the deal. Goalie has to be able to claim his space in the blue paint
Yup, if it was a first come first serve you’d have a player go right into the center of the blue paint and stand pat.

And yeah, Perry has made his reputation, lost any benefit of any doubt
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So a foot can’t be in the blue paint ever? Lol
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So a foot can’t be in the blue paint ever? Lol
That's not what the rule says, and that's not what posters are saying, and that's not why Perry got the penalty. But if that's all you're getting out of the whole discussion, well, I guess that's what they call a ‘you’ problem.
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So a foot can’t be in the blue paint ever? Lol
No, no. You simply can't impede the goalie.

If he needs to move from side-to-side to make a save then you can't be standing there. That would be interference.
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The Flames are a team full of young guys and two way vets with hustle. The flames have some older players, but Kadri, Backlund, and Coleman aren't going to slow a team down or lose their hustle halfway through a game.

The Oilers are just old. They looked older and slower, and that got more pronounced as the game went on.
I thought the same thing. It was like they just sort of ran out of gas. One thing that I noticed as well was that the oilers forwards persisted in peeling away from the flames D; it looked like they were afraid to get hit or were otherwise avoiding contact with the Flames D.

Peeling out to look for a cross ice pass and a highlight reel goal.

I attributed this to the oilers being slower, easier to hit, and ultimately afraid of getting injured. The oilers lost a lot of youthful aggression and that’s one of the reasons why they are so ineffective right now. No one was driving at the net.

Good. Strange but good.
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Old 10-14-2024, 10:59 PM   #396
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Look at his skates, and picture where a humans ass is, wearing hockey pants.

He can’t stick out his glove, cut down the angle, it’s clear as day and called exactly as it should be.

Like I said, if this wasn’t the rule they’d just park a Lucic type guy right in front half in the blue paint and bend over.
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Part of the outcry is no doubt due to the oilers v ducks playoff game when Perry was lying on the oilers goalie and no penalty was called.

I’m sure that there are oilers fans who expect that level of play to continue…but isn’t.
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The thing they never focused on (replay kept going to the battle in the crease 5 seconds before for some stupid Oilers broadcast reason) was the one replay where Vladar tried to stick his glove out but it hit the backside of Perry, who of course was in the crease.

Vladar couldn't move his glove or probably his stick even if he wanted to, even though his body was in the other side of the crease, so good call, but he also has to sell his being impeded a lot more than he did (which was none).

It was close and Vladar was notikely to save that tip even if he could move his arm.
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Part of the outcry is no doubt due to the oilers v ducks playoff game when Perry was lying on the oilers goalie and no penalty was called.

I’m sure that there are oilers fans who expect that level of play to continue…but isn’t.
You mean the one where Nurse cross checked Perry onto Talbot?
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I think he should have been called for what he pulled in the crease a few seconds before the non-goal, where he dove at Vladar and took his feet out from underneath him with his stick. That's why Backlund took the shot at Skinner, and good on him for that.
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