I know this will be a minority opinion but I actually think Pelletier has higher upside and might be a better NHLer than Coronato. Coronato sometimes lacks killer instinct and work ethic can slide and I think he’s less skilled than Pelletier and I think Pelletier has a harder work ethic.
We’ll see I guess and would love to be pleasantly surprised. On the upside I think Coronato’s shot is extremely good, but I struggle to see how he gets his skating and compete level there. I think so many fans overlook Pelletier because he was injured, basically.
I know this will be a minority opinion but I actually think Pelletier has higher upside and might be a better NHLer than Coronato. Coronato sometimes lacks killer instinct and work ethic can slide and I think he’s less skilled than Pelletier and I think Pelletier has a harder work ethic.
We’ll see I guess and would love to be pleasantly surprised. On the upside I think Coronato’s shot is extremely good, but I struggle to see how he gets his skating and compete level there. I think so many fans overlook Pelletier because he was injured, basically.
I sure hope you’re right.
I look at Pelletier play and think Lazar. And not the NJ Lazar.
He can be a little inconsistent, I agree, but so can Coronato. I think fans rely a lot on draft positioning to tell them what to think but truly Pelletier’s stickhandlinh and playmaking is elite level.
The market dictated the return and not much you can do about that. Would be nice to see Calgary get a “wow” return on one of the core pieces they moved. Sometimes you see trades being made and you think “can’t believe that guy got such a big haul.” All of Calgary’s trades probably translate to fair market value but would be nice to be in on a lopsided trade that favours the Flames. Yes, easier said than done but one can dream.
The Lindholm trade was pretty ‘wow’. The Flames not only got the current best player in the deal, but a first, a very interesting prospect, and a throw-in – all under team control, while Lindholm himself is ready to walk.
In retrospect, the Toffoli trade is up there, too. The Flames got back a player with similar production, but younger and cheaper; dodged an expensive re-signing; and added a pick while doing it.
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Flames get the Panthers from the Tkachuk trade if it is not in the top 10. If it is in the top 10 the Habs will get the Flames pick unless it is 1st overall.
If both picks are outside the top 10 the Habs get the highest of the 2 so Calgary could give up the 11th pick if that is where theirs lands
Seriously wtf was Treliving thinking? Man did he ever screw up in that last season.
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I said there might be teams that would overpay, and that Pospisil is a risk for a short Ferland-like career. I like Pospisil but he’s a guy that might be a bit of a flash in the pan.
It’s unlikely. No one overpaid for Ferland or Bennett. Given the returns we got for those two heart and soul guys, I’d rather we have kept them.
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5 times. Just depends on placement of the FLA and Flames picks at the end of the year.
I'm confused. I think we pick 6 times no matter what. The Flames currently have seven 1st rounders in play over the next 3 seasons, but one of those has to go to Montreal. That would leave us with 6.
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Love this. You tube shows his scraps . He holds his own. Better fighter than Regher.
Conroy immediately said he's a Zadorov comparison but younger and likely more upside In terms of he's got more upside....he hits like Regher and Z and looks more mobile than both.
Guy hasn't even stepped on the ice yet and people are bithcing. We need an Engelland type player on the back end that can do it all without hesitation and he checks allot of boxes according to Connie himself.
I see things a bit differently. He doesn't hit as much or as hard as either Regher or Z. A guy like Okhotiuk is more physical than Bahl is.
IMO strength is disrupting the cycle, clearing the net and getting pucks back. He relies more on stick checks than physical play to seperate forwards off the puck in transition.
He needs to work on his first pass and carrying the puck out of the zone. Remember how Z used to pass when he just got here? So yeah, his teammates will have to be ready for the puck to be in their skates.
He is a worse skater than Z, I think he's more similar to Gudbranson in that regard.
Another place where he's similar to Z when we got him is taking a bunch of needles penalties.
I think he would best compliment a guy like Andersson or Kylington on a pairing. If he ends up paired with Pachal expect the Flames to have no transition game while they're on the ice.
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As others have mentioned, as of right now it's 6 1st round picks.
It WOULD be 7 if not for the Monahan trade.
2024 - CGY, VAN
2025 - CGY OR FLA, NJD conditional
2026 - CGY, VGK (NJD if their 2025 1st is top 10)
Would you trade Kadri for that 1st? I think we still can. Trade Kadri for a 1st that is.
I think we got a decent player as a result of that cap space, and he has been our best forward last year, playing at a PPG pace after the first ~10 games of the season.
This management has gotten a lot better at turning UFA signings into assets. Markstrom, Tanev, Coleman, and Kadri all seem to be worth their contracts, and then some.
Moreover some finds like Sharangovich, Kuzmenko, Pachal, and Greer make me believe in the pro scouting staff a lot more.
I can't find the original post to quote, but that Athletic write-up saying that Conroy has lost every trade he made is dumb for so many reasons.
First, most of the trades he made either included futures or was straight up for futures. It will take years to fairly judge the trades (Tanev and Zadorov trades for example).
Second, the Toffoli and Lindholm trades are showing really good early returns.
Third, it's impossible to say if something is a bad trade when you don't know what else was on the table, if anything at all.
Perhaps, The Athletic graded it based on the Flames trying to make the playoffs, since that IS what Conroy said they were trying to do lol
