[Rumour] Dreger: Markstrom trade won't happen unless NJ includes Mercer and higher draft pick

[getoverit]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Meh pass.

Geez you’d think a fan of the team who rode the hell out of Brodeur to success would realize the value of a very good starting goalie. Honestly the Devils outside of Mercer don’t have the assets to acquire Markstrom

Don’t have the assets

That might be a little facetious. There are other assets worthy!

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by getoverit

Don’t have the assets

That might be a little facetious. There are other assets worthy!

I could have said “will not part with the assets necessary”. If they value a 3rd line centerman higher than a starting goalie there probably isn’t a deal to be had.

[442scotty]

Can’t we just fire this new ###t disturber into the sun? Mod?

[Braden]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

You know how I know goalies like Linus Ullmark and Jacob Markstrom can be available cheaply.

They were both literally acquired for free as UFAs.

How about Marc-Andre Fleury in 2017!

Pittsburgh paid a 2nd to dump him! Least valuable goalie ever

Am I doing this right?

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

This dude is a purebread troll.

Should be out on his arse by dawn at this rate lol.

Give him hell, boys!

It's just so weird. Why go and try to convince another team's fans that they are being meanies by over valuing their goalie?

If Markstrom isn't important for his team why does he care?

Seems like he really, really wants Markstrom and is throwing a tantrum because he can't have him.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

How many trade demands have come out of calgary in the past few years? How many top of market contracts declined? How many NTCs is calgary on?

based on my count its: Toffoli, Lindholm, Hanifin, Zadorov, Gaudreau, and Tkachuk, Backlund.

And for NJD its: ......

For Jersey the following players have NTC’s or NMC’s in their contracts - Hughes, Meier, Bratt, Hischier, Palat, Haula, Hamilton

I assume the …. Is because you forgot to mention all those guys.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Their viewpoint isn't being discredited because they're new, it's because the viewpoint is misguided, self-serving, sometimes wrong, and delivered with far too much abrasiveness.

As for you, the fact that you continue to tout your Markstrom-isn't-worth-a-bag-of-pucks position, despite the potential trade VERY much to the contrary, is truly astounding.

People were discrediting the argument on the basis of account age on the prior page of this thread.

I’m not here to defend the “unsubstantiated rumors” and “no one wants to play in Calgary” stuff, but keep an open mind to what Markstrom’s value actually is. There was a time when you could buy JDS Uniphase stock going to the moon. I suppose it was worth it at the time.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

I've looked through here. Seems like you guys were off on every single trade return so far.

I said for months to Calgary fans on cap friendly. Look at the comps. look at the comps. And shockingly it lined up exactly with the comps (frankly I even overestimated it at a devils comp of 1st+Bahl+3rd for 50% retention)

Then you are far to brilliant for the peons that exist on CP.

Surely your "know it allness" can be put to better use elsewhere?

You should really quit wasting your time with such dregs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Who is this clown?

The only reason we got excited about this trade was because Fitz was paying up.

Even Friedman said the package would accelerate everything for us.

Holtz was mentioned by him by name. He said it was plus as well.

[ComixZone]

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

I've looked through here. Seems like you guys were off on every single trade return so far.

I said for months to Calgary fans on cap friendly. Look at the comps. look at the comps. And shockingly it lined up exactly with the comps (frankly I even overestimated it at a devils comp of 1st+Bahl+3rd for 50% retention)

So

Why the hell are you wasting your brilliance here?
Surely someone of your insight can find better ways to waste your time

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Who is this clown?

The only reason we got excited about this trade was because Fitz was paying up.

Even Friedman said the package would accelerate everything for us.

Holtz was mentioned by him by name. He said it was plus as well.

Guy does not even know the number of players on Jersey who have NTC’s or NMC’s. I don’t think he knows much about what is going on in New Jersey.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Guy does not even know the number of players on Jersey who have NTC’s or NMC’s. I don’t think he knows much about what is going on in New Jersey.

He must be sleepy Tom Fitzgerald.

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by Angelino

Does New Jersey have any AHL defensemen Conroy can trade for?

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

For Jersey the following players have NTC’s or NMC’s in their contracts - Hughes, Meier, Bratt, Hischier, Palat, Haula, Hamilton

I assume the …. Is because you forgot to mention all those guys.

No I meant NTCs as in players from other teams who have Calgary on their NTCs. Calgary ranks near the top of the league in that. NJD does not

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Guy does not even know the number of players on Jersey who have NTC’s or NMC’s. I don’t think he knows much about what is going on in New Jersey.

I was talking about teams on players NTCs.

Not giving players NTCs. I assumed that was clear considering the context of desirable destinations

[Southside]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

No I meant NTCs as in players from other teams who have Calgary on their NTCs. Calgary ranks near the top of the league in that. NJD does not

Here is where I turn the tables on you. Source?

[CgyFlamesftw]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

No I meant NTCs as in players from other teams who have Calgary on their NTCs. Calgary ranks near the top of the league in that. NJD does not

Don’t think we don’t know that? Yet here the flames are same amount of points as devils yet nobody wants to play here. One position is failing devils hard, goaltending.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

No I meant NTCs as in players from other teams who have Calgary on their NTCs. Calgary ranks near the top of the league in that. NJD does not

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...uffalo/?sn-amp

New Jersey in the same group as calgary.

Go away!

[2ArmBands]

Originally Posted by mdubz

This sh&$ had me laughing extra hard