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Old 02-28-2024, 06:31 PM   #141
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There was literally not one person above your comment poopooing it
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If the prospect is good, excellent. If it’s a throwaway like Grushnikov and the conditional pick is a throwaway too, I would have just kept Tanev as a self rental. Need at least one guy you expect to play or a 1st.

Edit: ####s’s sake, the conditions on the 3rd better be good.
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Old 02-28-2024, 06:31 PM   #142
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Devils and Flames at least have a line of communication that we know of lol
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Godspeed Tanev. You were a great soldier.

Loved him as a Flame and if he's looking for a home as a UFA I hope he finds it here.
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Old 02-28-2024, 06:31 PM   #144
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Devils helped broker the deal? Weird.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1763013283974418541
Devils cuddling up to the Flames and helping them out to get Conroy so come down on a Markstrom or Hanifin price?
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I think it's silly that Tanev is so under valued. He would have been my number 1 target for a team needing a D and trying to win a cup.

Looks like I'm a Stars fan this playoffs.
Over time I find I have few players I really root for - but Tanev was one of those.
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"Murray doesn't retain."

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Might actually be true
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Old 02-28-2024, 06:32 PM   #147
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Wtf on the devils being in on it.

I wonder if thus is part of a markstrom handshake lol
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So a future Tanev? Cool, Tanev can mentor future Tanev when he signs back here next season.
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Old 02-28-2024, 06:32 PM   #149
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Im liking how most of the Flames defense prospects are either full offense or full defense. Lots of future pairings in the works.
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Old 02-28-2024, 06:32 PM   #150
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Not a thrilling return all in all, and it should be judged on its own merit. However, with the trades done and trades still pending, it does afford some flexibility to deal some of these picks for future years picks through a package. I doubt the Flames keep all this years picks. Seems like too many to take in one year. If I were to make a second guess, the Hanifin trade will be for next years’ picks to whomever he gets dealt to.
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Double retention

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Oh, wow. If Conroy had to get a 3rd team involved just to retain the part of 2.25 million from now until the end of the season, I think we know why the Markstrom deal fell through...Friedman did say all along that he thought retention was the real issue.
retention is 75%, so Dallas is paying NJ to retain 25%
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2026 conditional 3rd.
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Devils cuddling up to the Flames and helping them out to get Conroy so come down on a Markstrom or Hanifin price?
Was just about the say the same thing… feels like somethings up.
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Oh, wow. If Conroy had to get a 3rd team involved just to retain the part of 2.25 million from now until the end of the season, I think we know why the Markstrom deal fell through...Friedman did say all along that he thought retention was the real issue.

The Flames retained 50% and the devils retained 25%
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Config is very new to this. Seems like he got worked a bit. If you sit on tanev and take nothing because no one’s meets your price, that’s not a terrible thing to do in your first year as GM, build up a reputation. Also to retain 50% and still not get a first is a letdown.
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Oh, wow. If Conroy had to get a 3rd team involved just to retain the part of 2.25 million from now until the end of the season, I think we know why the Markstrom deal fell through...Friedman did say all along that he thought retention was the real issue.
Depends. Double retention is a way of lessoning the cap hit to the Stars further. the Flames could retain and then NJ could help further.
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The first obviously was not out there. You are complaining about trading an aging often injured shut down D man who is an upcoming UFA for a 2nd, a prospect who was taken in the 2nd, and a conditional 3rd? That is a nice return, especially as he was a free agent signing in the first place. I am fine with the return.
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Old 02-28-2024, 06:32 PM   #159
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Flames posted the trade without it being a 3 way deal.
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Well, the Devils part in this is really bizarre....
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