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Old 02-24-2024, 12:30 PM   #24281
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Kuzmenko... if he's being traded its a bit out of left field imo. I like the idea it's part of a bigger package. He's notably played with nishushkin (col), marchenko (clb), and kaprisov (min) in the khl, but I'm sure plenty of teams are interested just based off his nhl time.

Sitting him is really strange, he's been a great addition to the team.
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Old 02-24-2024, 12:31 PM   #24282
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Kuzmenko... if he's being traded its a bit out of left field imo. I like the idea it's part of a bigger package. He's notably played with nishushkin (col), marchenko (clb), and kaprisov (min) in the khl, but I'm sure plenty of teams are interested just based off his nhl time.

Sitting him is really strange, he's been a great addition to the team.
Apparently he is sick.
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Old 02-24-2024, 12:31 PM   #24283
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Kuz sick tonight, per Pat:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1761471914114224229
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Kuzmenko... if he's being traded its a bit out of left field imo. I like the idea it's part of a bigger package. He's notably played with nishushkin (col), marchenko (clb), and kaprisov (min) in the khl, but I'm sure plenty of teams are interested just based off his nhl time.

Sitting him is really strange, he's been a great addition to the team.
With his continuing cap hit, he's very unlikely to be anyone's target.
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Old 02-24-2024, 12:44 PM   #24285
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Wait. Aren't you an Oiler fan?

They absolutely are. Confirmed a long time ago.
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Old 02-24-2024, 12:48 PM   #24286
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Always a reason for these moves haha

One day we will get our trades.
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Old 02-24-2024, 01:14 PM   #24287
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Fun thought.

I personally think kuz is worth a 1st in a vacuum. So what could we be snagging for the two combined...
Get this man a vacuum!
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Kuzmenko being sick also probably explains why his ice time was cut on Thursday.



Since joining the Flames, Vladar only has 2 starts against the Oilers. He has played well with a 1-1-0 record and the loss can't be blamed on him. Meanwhile, the Oilers seem to be in Markstrom's head since the playoffs.

It's possible they're resting Markstrom for trade purposes. It's also possible they're just going with the guy who has played better against Edmonton recently.


After tonight, the Flames only have one game in the next week. I'm sure if he can, Conroy would love to get stuff done this week while the team has a light schedule and both the Flames and Wranglers will be in town.
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I would rather keep Tanev than trade him to the Oilers. They’re already a cup contender; the thought of making them better turns my stomach, especially being surrounded by their mouth-breathing fans. A GM can’t be that petty, but it would be a hard pill to swallow.
Agreed, also I feel the same about getting Lazar in return

Sure he finally looks like a decent 4th liner after bouncing around the league as a 13th F for a decade. Ok.
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Old 02-24-2024, 01:45 PM   #24290
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I have too much time on my hands...

Markstrom + Tanev to NJ (both at 50% retention)

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2024 1st, 2025 2nd (conditional unprotected 1st if they win the cup this year), Mercer, Holtz, Casey - essentially Markstrom at 50% for 1st, Mercer, Casey and Tanev for Holtz + conditional 2nd

Hanifin (25% retained) sign and trade to FLA

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Lundell, 1st, 2nd, 3rd (conditional 2nd if FLA makes conference finals)


NJ vs FLA in the ECF, NJ wins the cup (wouldn't mind cheering for Tanev, Markstrom)

NJ flops year after, top 10 pick becomes ours 2025
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Old 02-24-2024, 01:47 PM   #24291
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100%

I would let Tanev walk for nothing before trading him to the oilers
#### like this is why we never matter.

The Oilers NEVER trade their 1st round picks for rentals (even though they should).

If they break that rule, for US, and for Chris Tanev of all people… like, just shut up and take their money.
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Didn't the Oilers trade their 1st for Ekholm last year year?
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Not Flames related, but hear the Oilers and Flyers are in talks on Sean Walker & Scott Laughton to Edmonton, not sure for what.
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Not Flames related, but hear the Oilers and Flyers are in talks on Sean Walker & Scott Laughton to Edmonton, not sure for what.
That is like $5M in cap coming back, how do the Oilers make that work?
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Didn't the Oilers trade their 1st for Ekholm last year year?
Yeah, Ekholm wasn't a rental though.
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Not Flames related, but hear the Oilers and Flyers are in talks on Sean Walker & Scott Laughton to Edmonton, not sure for what.
Likely giving up Broberg and/or their 2024 first round pick.
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Something's gotta give in the next week. It's been too quiet and I'm getting super annoyed there's nothing in terms of any movement of Tanev and Hanifin or Markstrom.
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Markstrom + Tanev to NJ (both at 50% retention)

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2024 1st, 2025 2nd (conditional unprotected 1st if they win the cup this year), Mercer, Holtz, Casey - essentially Markstrom at 50% for 1st, Mercer, Casey and Tanev for Holtz + conditional 2nd
0% chance they do that. Cut Holtz and cut retention on Tanev and we might be talking.
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Yeah, that's wildly optimistic.

For Markstrom and Tanev, both retained, a great return would be Mercer, Casey and a 1st.

No need to push for quantity, this return is all quality.
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Something's gotta give in the next week. It's been too quiet and I'm getting super annoyed there's nothing in terms of any movement of Tanev and Hanifin or Markstrom.
Ride it all to the last hour on trade deadline and all bidders get desperate and they make a bad trade due to the flurry and all the tension.
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