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				The whole being able to challenge a "missed stoppage" but not being able to challenge a missed penalty is so stupid and very NHL. 
 
You can miss a trip that directly leads to  goal and not be able to challenge it, but a play like that where a puck glazes off a glove can be challenged. 
 
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Yeah nothing
 
its not a homer take based on this game alone and the Flames will get screwed by the refs anyway haha...I just want to be able to be excited when the puck goes in the net again
 
Its also terrible for getting kids into the game...they jump up and down, celebrate ect. and then
 
oh doesn't count nevermind
 
Some idiot linesman missed a 2 feet offside call in the playoffs and this is what we ####ing get for the rest of hockey history
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Just gonna say it, the maple leafs fans dominated the energy in the Saddledome and I can’t help but think that affects the players and gets in their head. Sad that the only time we seem to cheer and support the team is when all the momentum is on our side or we score a goal. I get it’s a business and fans pay for entertainment, but call me silly to think fans should be supporting their team and cheering as long as the play isn’t atrocious.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-18-2024, 11:24 PM
			
			
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				Just gonna say it, the maple leafs fans dominated the energy in the Saddledome and I can’t help but think that affects the players and gets in their head. Sad that the only time we seem to cheer and support the team is when all the momentum is on our side or we score a goal. I get it’s a business and fans pay for entertainment, but call me silly to think fans should be supporting their team and cheering as long as the play isn’t atrocious. 
			
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I mean they get one game a year, its a special event
 
vs. Flames in the dome for 4 games this week alone
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-18-2024, 11:27 PM
			
			
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				I mean they get one game a year, its a special event 
 
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I don’t think Flames fans would rock the stadium in Toronto. I guess more people from Toronto or fans of the team here in Calgary than vice versa, but as a unit we don’t seem to shake any buildings as away fans, even Edmonton. Even when the Oilers are in town it feels like their fans bring way more energy than we do. Would just love to see the Saddledome stand its ground and have everyone unified in putting away teams in their places.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-18-2024, 11:28 PM
			
			
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				I actually don't want to watch the game Saturday 
 
the officiating won't be even and it will just piss me off, these challenges too its hard to ever have excitement, its more relief when they drop the puck and the goal stands 
 
So there you go NHL 
 
One of the biggest Flames fans on earth doesn't want to watch the BOA.  I got invited to play shinny and I'm gonna go 
			
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I am not watching Saturday. If you think tonight was bad, it will pale in comparison to the BOA.  I am enjoying watching the Flames but I cannot, and will not. give the NHL and HNIC one second of my time. And besides all that,  McLoser and Pissy are so freaking ugly, I might not be able to sleep for days.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-18-2024, 11:28 PM
			
			
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				I actually don't want to watch the game Saturday 
 
the officiating won't be even and it will just piss me off, these challenges too its hard to ever have excitement, its more relief when they drop the puck and the goal stands 
 
So there you go NHL 
 
One of the biggest Flames fans on earth doesn't want to watch the BOA.  I got invited to play shinny and I'm gonna go 
			
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Yeah there is a good chance I’ll break something in my house if I watch that game.  Was hoping the kraken would end the winning streak and oilers would at least come in to Calgary on less of a high. They already play us like it’s their 
Stanley cup (closest they’ll get), but now they’ve got confidence from that streak.  I just hope a) the flames that show up against VGK and Dallas type teams show up and B) pospisil is back.  He’d get right under the skin of Pissy, Dumbnell and dirtbag Kane.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-18-2024, 11:28 PM
			
			
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				I actually don't want to watch the game Saturday 
 
the officiating won't be even and it will just piss me off, these challenges too its hard to ever have excitement, its more relief when they drop the puck and the goal stands 
 
So there you go NHL 
 
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Not sure I do either. 
 
You know what will happen even if the Flames play well and get a lead. 
 
Connor clutches some guys stick or gets spun around after getting grazed - refs bite.
 
The NHL let's these two teams do whatever they like and help their cause. Tired of being at the receiving end of it and pretending that it's "just the way she goes"
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				I don’t think Flames fans would rock the stadium in Toronto. I guess more people from Toronto or fans of the team here in Calgary than vice versa, but as a unit we don’t seem to shake any buildings as away fans, even Edmonton. Even when the Oilers are in town it feels like their fans bring way more energy than we do. Would just love to see the Saddledome stand its ground and have everyone unified in putting away teams in their places. 
			
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come on now the Leafs are an original six team...before the 80s there was no Flames 
 
Most Canadian's picked Montreal or Toronto...and most kids cheer for who their parents cheered for and so on and so on.  There are more Leaf fans out there than any other team, it doesn't really matter how many cups has it gotten them? Playoff wins?  Teams with no fans usually win lol
 
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			The nice thing about Toronto fans cheering this type of call is it will come back to eff you  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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79.1 Hand Pass - A player shall be permitted to stop or “bat” a puck in the air with his open hand, or push it along the ice with his hand, and the play shall not be stopped unless, in the opinion of the on-ice officials, he has directed the puck to a teammate, or has allowed his team to gain an advantage, and subsequently possession and control of the puck is obtained by a player of the offending team, either directly or deflected off any player or official.
			
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"Directed to a teammate"
 
That it was not. 
 
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				come on now the Leafs are an original six team...before the 80s there was no Flames  
 
Most Canadian's picked Montreal or Toronto...and most kids cheer for who their parents cheered for and so on and so on 
			
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I know I understand that. It just rubs me the wrong way, just a proud Flames fan protective of our barn. Half might be leafs fans, but the other half are flames fans and we should at least match the energy. Every time Harvey pounded the drum it was go leafs go much much louder than go flames go. Leafs fans started their own chants many times during the game. Just didnt feel the pushback tonight at the dome.
 
Ya you’re right in saying look at how fanatical maples leafs fans are but what has that gotten them. The team is ultimately way more important than the energy the fans bring, but I guess as a fan energy is all I can bring and when I see it drowned out I’m like well… that sucks ahaha, just wished it wasn’t the case
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				Not sure I do either.  
 
You know what will happen even if the Flames play well and get a lead.  
 
Connor clutches some guys stick or gets spun around after getting grazed - refs bite. 
 
Nhl let's these two teams do whatever they like and help their cause. Tired of being at the receiving end of it and pretending that it's "just the way she goes" 
			
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Huska should have taken a fine and went on a rant tonight.
 
Just to try to maybe have the refs and league think twice about things before Saturday's game even
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Huska needs to man up on these stupid calls and get upset at the refs.  He just sits there quietly and lets it happen, no big deal.  Is he afraid to call them on this BS??? 
			
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He's too good of a man. He needs to have a bad side. 
 
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				"Directed to a teammate" 
 
That it was not.  
 
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Replay has gotten way out of control across most sports. It’s  bad enough when some dork in a control room overturns something because it technically violated the rule, but not the spirit of the rule (like a skate blade being 1mm over the blue line, technically against the rules but doesn’t effectively change the outcome as it’s so small) but this one didn’t even violate the letter of the law. This was is no way directed to a teammate. Not at all. Why have that verbiage in the rule of it’s not going to be followed. 
 
Reminds me of the “kicked” in goal against the oilers in 2022. Why put “distinct kicking motion” in the rules if you’re just going to ignore it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				"Directed to a teammate" 
 
That it was not.  
 
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"...in the opinion of the on-ice officials...has allowed his team to gain an advantage..."
 
Coleman wasn't even looking at the defense behind who picked it up. 
 
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				Huska needs to man up on these stupid calls and get upset at the refs.  He just sits there quietly and lets it happen, no big deal.  Is he afraid to call them on this BS??? 
			
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No. He's new. Has no standing at all.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				"...in the opinion of the on-ice officials...has allowed his team to gain an advantage..." 
 
Coleman wasn't even looking at the defense behind who picked it up.  
 
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I guess one could argue that the advantage was that the puck didn't clear the zone. Had it not hit Coleman's hand, it would've probably gone out of the zone, and wouldn't have given Oesterle the option of keeping the play alive. 
 
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