12-28-2023, 07:18 PM
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#14501
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Spurs
So we are screwed with two guys putting family over hockey. Understandable (somewhat) for them but sucks for us.
No more NMC or NTCs please. Especially for UFAs that we shouldn't be signing to start with.
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Then you aren’t signing any player with leverage.
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12-28-2023, 07:23 PM
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#14502
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSharp
I'm sure the Bruins GM would be dripping with saliva at the thoughts of having a stable center that is similar to Bergeron for another 10 years in Lindholm.
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Bergeron either won or was close to winning the Selke pretty much every year of his career.
Lindholm has come close once when he finished 2nd to Bergeron.
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12-28-2023, 07:42 PM
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#14503
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Franchise Player
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Lindholm is way closer to Danault than Bergeron.
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12-28-2023, 07:58 PM
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#14504
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kehatch
I just have to wonder if a guy like that stays committed if the Flames are in a rebuild.
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Maybe not a rebuild, but he might be ok with a retool. Getting younger but still trying to win.
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12-28-2023, 08:03 PM
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#14505
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Then you aren’t signing any player with leverage.
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I am fine with that, especially with UFA's from outside the organization.
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12-28-2023, 08:09 PM
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#14506
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSharp
The Pearson Award is votings by the peers that played with and against him on the ice. That's at least fair since most knew what kind of player Iggy was on the ice. The guy can carry the team on his shoulder for so much and for so long, but making the playoffs to determine your worth is such BS. It's not like the Habs needed Theordore to make the playoffs. And you're right, it was just that little excuse to get that final vote from a French speaking Montrealer to tip that scale. We all knew he'd get robbed and that's what had happened.
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Your allegation of a racial motive was made up out of whole cloth. I don’t even know if you know the reporter involved. You can’t look it up. That was before votes were made public. It’s not even known if it was a Francophone
Last edited by GioforPM; 12-28-2023 at 08:12 PM.
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12-28-2023, 08:17 PM
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#14507
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Your allegation of a racial motive was made up out of whole cloth. I don’t even know if you know the reporter involved. You can’t look it up. That was before votes were made public. It’s not even known if it was a Francophone
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Actually we do.
https://thewincolumn.ca/2022/04/12/b...jor-nhl-award/
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However a reporter from Quebec inexplicably left Iginla completely off his five player ballot
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12-28-2023, 08:22 PM
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#14508
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
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Newsflash. There are non francophone reporters in Montreal. It could easily have been Red Fisher.
Last edited by GioforPM; 12-28-2023 at 08:25 PM.
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12-28-2023, 08:52 PM
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#14509
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Newsflash. There are non francophone reporters in Montreal. It could easily have been Red Fisher.
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Fair enough. I guess I was just assuming a reporter from Quebec would be a francophone. You could well be right though.
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12-28-2023, 09:06 PM
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#14510
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Fair enough. I guess I was just assuming a reporter from Quebec would be a francophone. You could well be right though.
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I know that there were several Montreal reporters that also only gave him a 5th place vote in addition to the rumoured person who left him off the ballot completely. But this was above airing their homeboy Jose got the award and not because Iggy is black.
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12-28-2023, 09:17 PM
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#14511
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I know that there were several Montreal reporters that also only gave him a 5th place vote in addition to the rumoured person who left him off the ballot completely. But this was above airing their homeboy Jose got the award and not because Iggy is black.
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Ok, I didn't even read where it was a race issue, I thought we were discussing about how they voted to get their goalie the award. I agree it has nothing to do with race.
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12-28-2023, 09:31 PM
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#14512
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Picking up on @topfiverecords trade summary post in one of the PGTs, I put this trade together between the Flames and the Devils.
To New Jersey:
G Jacob Markstrom (15% retained)
D Noah Hanafin
To Calgary
D Brendan Smith (cap dump)
D Seamus Casey (or Lenni Hameenaho)
2025 2nd round pick (if Calgary retains 50% on Markstrom this becomes a 2024 1st round pick)
I don't think the Devils will move Holtz or Mercer to make this trade work.
Who says no and why?
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12-28-2023, 09:35 PM
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#14513
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Lifetime Suspension
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That seems like a poor return for either guy let alone both.
Maybe if it’s a first that works for Markstrom but doesn’t interest me as a return for Hanifin.
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12-28-2023, 09:37 PM
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#14514
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Yeah, I hate all the homer trade proposals on CP, but that is too far in the other direction. That's a garbage return.
Last edited by jayswin; 12-28-2023 at 09:50 PM.
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12-28-2023, 09:43 PM
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#14515
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
Picking up on @topfiverecords trade summary post in one of the PGTs, I put this trade together between the Flames and the Devils.
To New Jersey:
G Jacob Markstrom (15% retained)
D Noah Hanafin
To Calgary
D Brendan Smith (cap dump)
D Seamus Casey (or Lenni Hameenaho)
2025 2nd round pick (if Calgary retains 50% on Markstrom this becomes a 2024 1st round pick)
I don't think the Devils will move Holtz or Mercer to make this trade work.
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The Flames do because that is fn terrible.
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12-28-2023, 09:48 PM
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#14516
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Flames should be able to get than alone for Hanifin
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12-28-2023, 09:51 PM
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#14517
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Markstrom is easier to trade (and retain on) next year, when he has signing bonuses, his actual salary is way cheaper than this year. Assuming, again, he waives.
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12-28-2023, 09:57 PM
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#14518
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Yeah, I hate all the homer trade proposals on CP, but that is too far in the other direction. That's a garbage return.
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The Devils fans are saying Casey won't be on the table for that return.
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12-28-2023, 10:01 PM
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#14519
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
The Devils fans are saying Casey won't be on the table for that return.
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Oh, well if the Devil fans are saying that then we can totally forget it. 
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12-28-2023, 10:14 PM
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#14520
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
Picking up on @topfiverecords trade summary post in one of the PGTs, I put this trade together between the Flames and the Devils.
To New Jersey:
G Jacob Markstrom (15% retained)
D Noah Hanafin
To Calgary
D Brendan Smith (cap dump)
D Seamus Casey (or Lenni Hameenaho)
2025 2nd round pick (if Calgary retains 50% on Markstrom this becomes a 2024 1st round pick)
I don't think the Devils will move Holtz or Mercer to make this trade work.
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So a 2nd round pick and a former 2nd round pick for a retained Markstrom and Hanifin. Why not throw in Lindholm as well if the Flames are getting that good of a return? I mean Casey is an undersized dman who does not put up lights out points, who could turn that down?
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