What to do with Huberdeau?

[Locke]

Just photoshop Huberdeau's face in.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Oh man, I'd easily trade Huberdeau's contract for Timo Meier with significant retention plus a sweetener. Feel like Meier's struggles are probably more due to injury then anything as he started the season off well, but hasn't done anything since coming back. Wonder if he's still feeling the effects of the injury.

I don't think it's a trade that would happen right now but more in the offseason if A) Meier finishes with under 40 points while struggling defensively and B)The Devils miss the playoffs on the back of poor goaltending

If those two things happen then I do wonder if they would look at moving Meier before his NMC kicks in, and still wouldn't be 1 for 1 and you'd have to take another overpaid player back.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Okay then explain why Mangiapane isn't pulling his weight or worth his salary.

He has 14 Even Strength points which ranks 79th among forwards in the NHL....that is tied or better than:

Evgeni Malkin
Vincent Trocheck
Filip Forsberg
Martin Necas
Cole Perfetti
Anze Kopitar
Steven Stamkos
Evander Kane
Tyler Toffoli
Valeri Nichushkin
Sebastian Aho
Brady Tkachuk

He's producing perfectly fine at 5V5 for both his role and salary and hasn't been bringing players down at all. His underlying metrics are still perfectly fine and some of the better results on the team. Not a liability defensively. Honestly the biggest issue that I can find is he keeps getting called for questionable penalties that other players aren't getting called for.

The problem with his production (and lots of players on the team TBH) is that the anemic PP, and really he's gotten limited minutes with the second unit so tough to blame him for that too.

The powerplay would get worse if Mangiapane was featured more on it.

Hes a nearly 28 year old 30 point winger who still struggles to stay on his skates.

His shot isn’t particularly remarkable.

He’s had 20 assists once - TJ Brodie had 20+ apples six times between age 22-28.

His 36 goal season was a complete anomaly that was the result of playing Covid-depleted rosters and AHL goalies far more often than he otherwise would have.

Is he earning his money now? Sure.

Is he going to ever be worth what it would cost to extend him?

Not a chance.

Sell. Sell. Sell.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

That’s because the Flames have more than a couple of forwards who are outperforming their contract. That’s why you have to look at contracts in context of the league and include both players who are outperforming and underperforming against their salary.

If you take away context and just say “he’s 7th! not good enough for his salary! meep!” you can just as easily say he’s outperforming the highest paid player, so he must be doing good.

Nah he is not earning his contract

If he continues this way, he’ll walk at the end of this contract and nobody is going to give him anything close to it

I bet Conroy can’t even trade his ass right now for fair value

[kukkudo]

Summer 2024 Huberdeau requests a trade outta Calgary.

[dino7c]

Wrong thread

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Summer 2024 Huberdeau requests a trade outta Calgary.

Summer 2024 all 31 other NHL teams respond "Lmao good luck with that"

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Summer 2024 Huberdeau requests a trade outta Calgary.

Huberdeau just had the puck with a clear path to the net, nobody within 20 feet of him, a backup goalie in net, and he made a 40-foot cross ice pass into his teammate’s feet that led to an easy clear.

Winter, 2023: Calgary Demands Jonathan Huberdeau Perform as Top-6 forward

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Huberdeau just had the puck with a clear path to the net, nobody within 20 feet of him, a backup goalie in net, and he made a 40-foot cross ice pass into his teammate’s feet that led to an easy clear.

Winter, 2023: Calgary Demands Jonathan Huberdeau Perform as Top-6 forward

I mean he was standing on his head

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Nah he is not earning his contract

If he continues this way, he’ll walk at the end of this contract and nobody is going to give him anything close to it

I bet Conroy can’t even trade his ass right now for fair value

Neither of those things have any relevance to whether he’s earning his contract.

Keep chugging along, though.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Summer 2024 Huberdeau requests a trade outta Calgary.

Can he ask sooner?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Locke

Can he ask sooner?

How do you know he hasn't already?

It's not like his fairy godmother can just sprinkle him with trade dust.

[Locke]

More like Huberdont...amirite?

No, thats okay...I'll let myself out.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Meier is a shot volume machine that drives play and showed just last season he's more than capable of scoring 40 goals.

Ruff also admitted that his skating is still not close to 100% from his injury (not too sure why he's playing, though it seems to apparently be an injury that he can't make worse playing on).

Meier could still be traded right now for positive value, me thinks.

Him and Huberdeau are nowhere near the same realm of bad contracts. At least not unless Meier's current play continues all of this season and next

No way Meier has positive value. There is very little chance he outplays his contract even if he gets back to his career averages.
Jersey won’t trade him for Huberdeau but no team is touching that Meier contract unless they are swapping bad contracts

[Hockey_Ninja]

Let’s say hypothetically Huberdeau actually does asks for a trade this summer: What trade is even realistic without having to add sweeteners? I accept having to take bad contracts back, but I’m certain teams are gonna want the Flames to add futures to take him off their hands

[memphusk]

It won't happen. Too many years left on that contract.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Let’s say hypothetically Huberdeau actually does asks for a trade this summer: What trade is even realistic without having to add sweeteners? I accept having to take bad contracts back, but I’m certain teams are gonna want the Flames to add futures to take him off their hands

There is none. The only way he gets moved is if there is enough retention where it doesn’t make sense for the Flames. If Bobrovsky had 5 years left on his deal then that would be a maybe but it is basically Meier and Nurse for contracts as bad as Huberdeau and they keep their own problem.

Have to hope Huberdeau turns it around, LTIRetires, or some rebuilding team will take the last two years of his contract if the Flames are good.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Let’s say hypothetically Huberdeau actually does asks for a trade this summer: What trade is even realistic without having to add sweeteners? I accept having to take bad contracts back, but I’m certain teams are gonna want the Flames to add futures to take him off their hands

There aren't bad contracts out there for us to take back.

I think the most hopeful idea would that Montreal would want to take the chance to get a French Canadian star but even if you take Anderson and Gallagher (their supposed bad contracts) the Hubredeau contract is still too long for them to make that swap.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Let’s say hypothetically Huberdeau actually does asks for a trade this summer: What trade is even realistic without having to add sweeteners? I accept having to take bad contracts back, but I’m certain teams are gonna want the Flames to add futures to take him off their hands

The wizard made sure he is a lifetime Flames. Untradable.
Real wizardry stuff.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Neither of those things have any relevance to whether he’s earning his contract.

Keep chugging along, though.

lol they are . He has negative value