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Old 10-05-2023, 02:53 PM   #201
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Ideally the deal should have been done 10 or so years ago. And I think it was the plan too, but the flood & repairs to the dome pushed that back.
My understanding is that it was CSEC becoming majority owners of the Stampeders in 2012 that actually delayed it. They thought they could get a better deal if they came up with CalgaryNEXT instead of a single arena.
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No way! Egypt themed! Lets get some Sandstone in there!

It should look like it might fall apart at any moment to drive fear into the hears of out enemies! It should look like something Indiana Jones might rob at any moment!
I have to draw the line at disparaging remarks about sandstone. I love sandstone buildings.
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I have to draw the line at disparaging remarks about sandstone. I love sandstone buildings.
So get it in there! Make the whole thing out of Sandstone!
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I hope the arena has a similar aesthetic to the new BMO Centre. I know the arena will likely look modern and decent as most of HOKs projects seem nice for the most part.

I just hope the urban design of the area is really good. The current set up of parking lots surrounding the Saddledome is so boring and lame. I know it is because they need the space for Stampede, but now in the new location, there has to be more bars, restaurants, apartments and plazas for people to hangout.
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Old 10-05-2023, 03:04 PM   #206
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My understanding is that it was CSEC becoming majority owners of the Stampeders in 2012 that actually delayed it. They thought they could get a better deal if they came up with CalgaryNEXT instead of a single arena.
At this point CalgaryNEXT might have been a better deal.
I don't remember the exact amounts but I seem to remember it was a little more total dollars but we would have got the land cleaned up, a stadium and a fieldhouse.
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I hope the arena has a similar aesthetic to the new BMO Centre. I know the arena will likely look modern and decent as most of HOKs projects seem nice for the most part.

I just hope the urban design of the area is really good. The current set up of parking lots surrounding the Saddledome is so boring and lame. I know it is because they need the space for Stampede, but now in the new location, there has to be more bars, restaurants, apartments and plazas for people to hangout.
No way...we should make the whole thing out of wood. Make it look like a Log Cabin.

Right now CSEC's spies are tearing their hair out.

"Which is it? Does he want Sandstone? Egyptian themed? Hobby Lobby? Made out of wood?? He's all over the place!!!"
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So get it in there! Make the whole thing out of Sandstone!
That’s what she said…


Your mom that is.
She’s had more men in her than the Saddledome.
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Part of the area design no doubt will be crowd control measures, to prevent widescale rioting and mayhem after Stanley Cup victories.

Police will be able to kettle Canucks and Oilers fans into the Elbow River.
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I don't remember the exact amounts but I seem to remember it was a little more total dollars but we would have got the land cleaned up, a stadium and a fieldhouse.
Was originally about $890 million in 2015, and the City estimated it later on to be around $1.8 billion, all in (2016). The current version is about $1.2 billion, all in. The current iteration features a main arena / community arena / public amenities, and the West Village iteration featured a main arena / community arena / 40,000 seat indoor fieldhouse/stadium / public amenities / environmental remediation of the site.
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Giant Solar Panel with an ODR underneath should suffice the mayor and the owner of CSEC.
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Yes, I was there back in February the day Andersson was hit by a car. Absolutely the best sporting venue I have been to (And I have been to many NFL, MLB, and a lot of arenas). I will be there in a couple weeks when the Flames play Detroit to meet up with any CPers that want to take a scouting trip!
I will be there too.
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Was originally about $890 million in 2015, and the City estimated it later on to be around $1.8 billion, all in (2016). The current version is about $1.2 billion, all in. The current iteration features a main arena / community arena / public amenities, and the West Village iteration featured a main arena / community arena / 40,000 seat indoor fieldhouse/stadium / public amenities / environmental remediation of the site.
I get it and I was being a bit sarcastic but with the city on the hook for overruns this really isn't a great deal. Wasn't the fieldhouse 400M of that with CSEC covering half? not to mention the stadium which is desperately needed.
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So where will the new Arena be built?
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So where will the new Arena be built?
Just North of the Dome I believe.
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Did they specify who will be responsible for overseeing the project? I’m hoping with the city being responsible for overruns, it’s not CSEC.
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Was originally about $890 million in 2015, and the City estimated it later on to be around $1.8 billion, all in (2016). The current version is about $1.2 billion, all in. The current iteration features a main arena / community arena / public amenities, and the West Village iteration featured a main arena / community arena / 40,000 seat indoor fieldhouse/stadium / public amenities / environmental remediation of the site.
And the clean-up cost the city suggested would get it that high was mostly nonsense.
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It needs some sandstone.
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