Hockey Canada, CHL settle lawsuit over alleged sexual assault involving WJ players

[TheIronMaiden]

"Significant names" certainly implies that there are players from Canadian markets.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

"Significant names" certainly implies that there are players from Canadian markets.

Why? Some of the bigger names on that team play in the US (though the biggest names were not present). The only Canadian team members are Dube, Batherson (Sens), Mete (Habs), Timmins (Toronto). Are any of those "significant names"? Maybe Batherson I guess.

My own entirely made up theory is that the smaller group might be guys who played in the same CHL league and were more familiar with eachother.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

"Significant names" certainly implies that there are players from Canadian markets.

Its been 5 years. Get on with the names, stop protecting these people.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by bdubbs

https://www.sportskeeda.com/ice-hock...-investigation

Sounds like Strickland knows the names of 5 players who may receive significant suspensions.

Good luck with those suspensions NHL. This event took place before these players were in the NHL. The NHLPA will file an appeal immediately and they will win.

[GFG#1]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Good luck with those suspensions NHL. This event took place before these players were in the NHL. The NHLPA will file an appeal immediately and they will win.

I suspect these contracts have a morality clause of some sort in it, which these events violate. NHLPA might appeal, not sure they would win, especially if criminal charges are going to be laid.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GFG#1

I suspect these contracts have a morality clause of some sort in it, which these events violate. NHLPA might appeal, not sure they would win, especially if criminal charges are going to be laid.

How can you have a morality clause before being signed to an NHL contract? Sure, if the player had already signed an NHL contract that would be applicable but i think these players would have a strong argument that because they didn't have a contract they should not be suspended. I mean I hope they are suspended for life and it sticks because what they did is terrible, I just think the NHL will have a hard time making the suspensions stick.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by GFG#1

I suspect these contracts have a morality clause of some sort in it, which these events violate. NHLPA might appeal, not sure they would win, especially if criminal charges are going to be laid.

I suspect this is correct.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

How can you have a morality clause before being signed to an NHL contract? Sure, if the player had already signed an NHL contract that would be applicable but i think these players would have a strong argument that because they didn't have a contract they should not be suspended. I mean I hope they are suspended for life and it sticks because what they did is terrible, I just think the NHL will have a hard time making the suspensions stick.

You dont know that. If these guys were drafted high they might have been signed but re-assigned to their Jr teams.

But we cant say because we dont know who these people are.

[bdubbs]

Yeah, I'm sure they're going through due process with regards to the names being released but it sucks that it's taking this long to out these scumbags for what they did.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Good luck with those suspensions NHL. This event took place before these players were in the NHL. The NHLPA will file an appeal immediately and they will win.

The players involved knowingly hid the truth about something that could be detrimental to the league while they were under an NHL contract.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by GFG#1

I suspect these contracts have a morality clause of some sort in it, which these events violate. NHLPA might appeal, not sure they would win, especially if criminal charges are going to be laid.

Betting they would only apply to present day while employed.

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

Truthfully I'll be a little rattled if Dube ends up being involved. That would suck.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess

Truthfully I'll be a little rattled if Dube ends up being involved. That would suck.

I'd be highly disappointed, but the more important cause has to take precedence.

If he was involved, Calgary Flame or not, he has to face that music.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Hey Connor, It's Mess

Truthfully I'll be a little rattled if Dube ends up being involved. That would suck.

Yeah, that would suck. Who ever bears responsibility should face the repercussions, but obviously no fan wants it to be one of theirs. There is a lot of speculation and "rumours" from people who are supposedly in the know, if you go down the internet rabbit hole. There was a Reddit post a little while ago where someone said that knew three of the players under the hot seat. I didn't see specific names dropped, but just vague clues and none of those clues suggested Dube. Plus, it was Reddit, so huge grain of salt needed.

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

Originally Posted by Locke

I'd be highly disappointed, but the more important cause has to take precedence.

If he was involved, Calgary Flame or not, he has to face that music.

I agree and I never suggested otherwise.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Good luck with those suspensions NHL. This event took place before these players were in the NHL. The NHLPA will file an appeal immediately and they will win.

They will not win. Same reason why you can’t dogsled you can’t participate in a gang rape.

[CF84]

I've always had a really bad feeling about the wording in the statement released for Dube. I think at least one of the players represented by Scott K. Fenton was a part of the scandal, and he then probably released a blanket statement for all to take the pressure off. Also, Hart or Dube would be pretty significant names.

“Dillon did not engage in any wrongdoing, and he co-operated fully with the independent London Police Service investigation in 2018, through which all players were then cleared of any wrongdoing.”

To me, that implies he could be one of the players who was wrongfully cleared of wrongdoing. You haven't "legally" engaged in wrongdoing if you were cleared of any wrongdoing through an investigation. A real and thorough investigation could prove otherwise. It's much easier to say "I had nothing to do with the alleged incident, but will be cooperating with any investigation."

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

They will not win. Same reason why you can’t dogsled you can’t participate in a gang rape.

This is a horrendous example/analogy, but the player could dogsled prior to signing the contract, no?

[PepsiFree]

Win or lose any grievance over any theoretical suspension, it’s entirely likely nobody involved plays in the NHL this year or possibly for the rest of their contract, and their contracts are likely the last ones they sign in the NHL.

[Royle9]

In the photos at the nightclub the night it happened Dube was definitely there.
Now that of course does not imply he engaged or was present for what unfolded afterwards, but there was 8 of them in those photos that have since been taken down.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

This is a horrendous example/analogy, but the player could dogsled prior to signing the contract, no?

Dillon Dube was under contract with the Calgary Flames on March 24, 2017. If he was there the morality clause definitely applies to him. It likely applies to all the players because in all likelihood they were all under contract. But I suspect the morality clause would even apply to actions taken before they were under contract. But anyone who was there was signed to a NHL contract at the time in all likelihood.