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N-E-B · 06-28-2023, 04:25 PM

Lindholm is an excellent player. He is not an elite #1C though. Ideally he’s on your 2nd line as a #1B type of center.

He is absolutely not worth that much money. I hope he doesn’t sign.

Rejean31 · 06-28-2023, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Does it seem to anyone else like all these conflicting leaks are deliberate to sow confusion?

Rather than expecting Conroy to be button lipped, maybe he’s leaning into his strengths and talking so much that it clouds all speculation of his true intentions.

Like, I feel like Brad or Darryl would’ve had Sec214 killed for some of these things he’s revealing.

Forgive me for asking, but what has Sec214 actually revealed that has actually come true? They could not have been more wrong on the coaching situation. Are they really an insider at all??

Aarongavey · 06-28-2023, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I think he means:

9 x 8, or 8.5 x 7. Loses over 10m with the latter.

The only way he can only sign a 7 year deal is if the Flames keep him all next year and then lose him for nothing. The minute he is traded somewhere he can sign an 8 year deal with that team.

MrMike · 06-28-2023, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by N-E-B

Lindholm is an excellent player. He is not an elite #1C though. Ideally he’s on your 2nd line as a #1B type of center.

He is absolutely not worth that much money. I hope he doesn’t sign.

Exactly. No more than Horvats 8.5

Man he owes 1/3rd of his next contract to Gaudreau and Tkachuk

GioforPM · 06-28-2023, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

https://twitter.com/user/status/1674180876643581952

If Sanheim is worth a first, Hanifin is worth a lot more.

GioforPM · 06-28-2023, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The only way he can only sign a 7 year deal is if the Flames keep him all next year and then lose him for nothing. The minute he is traded somewhere he can sign an 8 year deal with that team.

If the team he's traded to isn't just renting him.

keenan87 · 06-28-2023, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rejean31

Forgive me for asking, but what has Sec214 actually revealed that has actually come true? They could not have been more wrong on the coaching situation. Are they really an insider at all??

Then, there was the whole "something is being done with Lindholm" a few days ago.

... and they knew nothing about the Toffoli trade..

Honestly, the description they put in their "updates".. how have they not been fired yet if they are actually a credible source.

MrMike · 06-28-2023, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

If Sanheim is worth a first, Hanifin is worth a lot more.

But he's cost controlled at 6.25 for like 6 years.

Hell then Weegar must be worth a top 5 pick then.

Hot_Flatus · 06-28-2023, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bluejays

Flames are the desperate bridesmaids here. They see all their friends getting married and are afraid of their perception. It doesn't matter what Lindholm will get elsewhere. The Flames are definitely not near the top of the division, nor will be in the next bit to have so many vets locked up. It just goes completely against logic to be doing this. Terrible. Shame on them if they did it.

See Murray Edwards. New GM and staff, yet the same tactics continue.

Scroopy Noopers · 06-28-2023, 04:29 PM

As a casual observer of the Sabres, I don’t see how they don’t offer the best package of forward prospects for Hanifin. They would benefit immensely from his presence, and they are looking ahead at a bit of a log jam up front.

Like Peterka/Krebs + Kulich + a pick.

Aarongavey · 06-28-2023, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

If the team he's traded to isn't just renting him.

Yes, but the fact of the matter is that Lindholm has the ability to sign an 8 year contract with any team he plays for. It is not some sort of exclusive Flames bargaining chip unless they do not trade him and he becomes a UFA next summer.

N-E-B · 06-28-2023, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rejean31

Forgive me for asking, but what has Sec214 actually revealed that has actually come true? They could not have been more wrong on the coaching situation. Are they really an insider at all??

FWIW I have a immediate family member who is dating someone that works for the Wranglers and he said a month ago that virtually everyone in the organization thought Mitch Love was going to get the job before interviews started.

Things changed sometime during the interview process but the information Sec got was probably accurate at the time he got it.

I also have another source in the organization (same one who gave me the original details on the Toffoli trade before they were out) who told me about Backlund requesting a trade a few years ago. I believe Sec had that info as well.

His story checks out to me.

GioforPM · 06-28-2023, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMike

But he's cost controlled at 6.25 for like 6 years.

Hell then Weegar must be worth a top 5 pick then.

I actually don't think Hanifin's going to make much more. Sanheim is cost controlled but pretty expensively for what he brings (23 points last year to Hanifin's 38) and his deal goes to 35 years old. And he makes a lot early on - it's front end loaded, and he has NTC clauses all the way through.

I'd rather push Hanifin on a deal for, say, 6.75. It's not out of line with the market.

GioforPM · 06-28-2023, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Yes, but the fact of the matter is that Lindholm has the ability to sign an 8 year contract with any team he plays for. It is not some sort of exclusive Flames bargaining chip unless they do not trade him and he becomes a UFA next summer.

Correct. Until the next TDL anyway. The window between the TDL and UFA is the "sign and trade" window. Before then, yes, any team that gets him can give him 8.

The point is that the acquiring team might not want to do that.

aaronkarlpatton · 06-28-2023, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by N-E-B

FWIW I have a immediate family member who is dating someone that works for the Wranglers and he said a month ago that virtually everyone in the organization thought Mitch Love was going to get the job before interviews started.

Things changed sometime during the interview process but the information Sec got was probably accurate at the time he got it.

I also have another source in the organization (same one who gave me the original details on the Toffoli trade before they were out) who told me about Backlund requesting a trade a few years ago. I believe Sec had that info as well.

His story checks out to me.

I want to say thank you for this info. I personally have valued and appreciated Sec214's stuff for a while, and your vocalizing support for him is a really nice gesture.

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