[Rumour] Trade offers that Conroy are getting are "underwhelming"

[BaconGuy]

Something tells me we are in for “Brad Treliving trade deadline” levels of disappointment tomorrow. Conroy learned from him so I’m wondering if he goes in with the mindset of we don’t have to trade any of these signed guys tomorrow if the offer isn’t there

We might see him be patient and pull a Joe Sakic and trade your Duchene’s during the first half of the regular season

[SuperMatt18]

Also this whole rookie GM angle is overplayed to me.

Conroy has been part of hockey operations since 2010 and assistant GM since 2014. He has relationships with all the other GMs for sure.

Them treating him like his some idiot and just lowballing isn't going to be happening because he's a rookie GM.

[howard_the_duck]

Good for Connie. Stand your ground and set a precedent.

I sure don’t envy him. Having one of these guys to deal would be one thing. 3-4 is a really tough spot.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Dion

Other GM's know they have Conroy at a disadvantage so it makes sense that the offers are underwhelming. All Connie can do is stand his ground and wait for a better offer.

No he can also counteroffer lousy offers to set expectations and start a dialogue.

But failing that, yeah, agree. You gotta ask for stuff. Go in with higher asks than you would be happy with settling on expecting the counter to your counter (or 2-3 rounds of that). Be prepared to eat contracts or share on some.

Tough to imagine people not being willing to make decent offers on these players.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Also this whole rookie GM angle is overplayed to me.

Conroy has been part of hockey operations since 2010 and assistant GM since 2014. He has relationships with all the other GMs for sure.

Them treating him like his some idiot and just lowballing isn't going to be happening because he's a rookie GM.

I largely agree, but if we get screwed by a soft market this is going to suck.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Also, as was said by someone else in another trhead, it may be that some teams are waiting to see what the draft board looks like as their picks come up. If they aren't happy, they might start trading.

Most GM's will have discussions and most GM's will know who they are getting for probably at least the top 10 picks. Maybe Lindholm gets moved for a first from a team that didn't get the guy they wanted...but it won't be top 10.

We will not get a high end already drafted prospect from anyone.

[Locke]

"Whelm me people! WHELM ME!!"

[Skyceman]

Patience is key. Conroy needs to hold the line until the right offer comes.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Also this whole rookie GM angle is overplayed to me.

Conroy has been part of hockey operations since 2010 and assistant GM since 2014. He has relationships with all the other GMs for sure.

Them treating him like his some idiot and just lowballing isn't going to be happening because he's a rookie GM.

I second this, I hate the "rookie GM" take.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Also this whole rookie GM angle is overplayed to me.

Conroy has been part of hockey operations since 2010 and assistant GM since 2014. He has relationships with all the other GMs for sure.

Them treating him like his some idiot and just lowballing isn't going to be happening because he's a rookie GM.

I don't the lowballs are because of Conroy.
They're because teams see the Flames situation of being backed into a corner. They're preying on a wounded animal and I'm glad Conroy isn't giving in easily.
What a difficult start to his job.

[868904]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Also this whole rookie GM angle is overplayed to me.

Conroy has been part of hockey operations since 2010 and assistant GM since 2014. He has relationships with all the other GMs for sure.

Them treating him like his some idiot and just lowballing isn't going to be happening because he's a rookie GM.

But it is reported that Conroy is getting lowballed.

And Briere didn't help the situation by giving the Blues a legit and big second line centre with a reasonable cap hit for next to nothing.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by flambers

I second this, I hate the "rookie GM" take.

It's just narrative building to excuse potential inaction.

I hope Conroy and team deliver. The team needs it.

The way Steinberg was just talking, Lindholm isn't on the trade market at all. They're still waiting for direction from the player...which I think is just stupid.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Also this whole rookie GM angle is overplayed to me.

Conroy has been part of hockey operations since 2010 and assistant GM since 2014. He has relationships with all the other GMs for sure.

Them treating him like his some idiot and just lowballing isn't going to be happening because he's a rookie GM.

Nothing to do with him being a rookie. It's all because other GM's have options.

Hayes just went for a 6th and St Louis got him at 3 years at $3.5 mil.

I like Backlund more, but what does this make him worth if guys like Hayes are going for a 6th. 3rd?

Patience might be needed here and some teams might be calling later in summer but the trades right now aren't looking good for teams selling.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Locke

I largely agree, but if we get screwed by a soft market this is going to suck.

If anything this is my worry too.

Hayes at 50% retained only returning a 6th scares me.

But then the Dubois and Newhook returns weren't terrible, and Dubois should be a better comparable to a Hanifin or Lindholm like deal.

Originally Posted by 868904

But it is reported that Conroy is getting lowballed.

And Briere didn't help the situation by giving the Blues a legit and big second line centre with a reasonable cap hit for next to nothing.

That has nothing to do with him being a rookie though.

If anything it's the market and how cap crunched teams are that are causing the soft offers. That and not being proactive last deadline to move a couple of these guys when the market was hot was also a mistake, because now GMs see 7 ufas and know the Flames are in a tough spot.

But it's also why retention should be a tool the Flames are heavily leveraging here, they need to open their market up to as many teams as possible including those cap crunched teams.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Locke

I largely agree, but if we get screwed by a soft market this is going to suck.

This post is starting to give me Cammalleri nightmares

[flambers]

More the players have 1 year on expiring contracts.

Speculation is some or all won't resign,

Why offer something over-whelming when they can sign them on July 1 2024.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Get picks, Craig.

Picks picks and more picks.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Set a high bar and don't waver.

Let the dry UFA market and limited options drive up desperation and call their bluff.

No JBo-like returns.

[Phaneufenstein]

He’s just trying to drive the price up by publicly stating what he got so far is not workable

[butterfly]

How are the Flames "backed into a corner"? Is Pittsburgh too? Toronto? Washington? Winnipeg?

It's not even draft day yet.