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		|  06-22-2023, 09:40 AM | #1681 |  
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			I would be happy if we could get a pick in the last third of the 1st round, nvm a mid-first. Still plenty of good players available there.
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		|  06-22-2023, 09:45 AM | #1682 |  
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			Sandman's latest 5 profiles added to Upside's profile page! 
On Twitter account (@UpsideHockey ) will be trying to get more Top 10 and Top 20 posts - probably got approx. 10-12 of these to post.
 
It's beginning to lot a lot like Draftmas
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		|  06-22-2023, 10:05 AM | #1683 |  
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		|  06-22-2023, 10:11 AM | #1684 |  
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			Nate Danielson @16. Yes please.
		 
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		|  06-22-2023, 10:14 AM | #1685 |  
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					Originally Posted by dammage79  Historically, the answer is yes. Many picks will be available to them.  Especially if a Lindholm or Hanifin are on the table and you look at the UFA class this year. 
 
 Yes, teams will pony up.
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I agree, because Hanifin and Lindholm are better than any UFA's, but far.
 
But those teams will need to feel extreme pressure to get a deal done prior to the draft, as each team would much prefer to give us 2024 draft picks.
 
But this is not a usual draft class, so looking at historical data on picks being exchanged for current assets may not be that relevant.
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		|  06-22-2023, 10:25 AM | #1686 |  
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			I always like Mackenzie's list, as I think his is always the closest to how it actually plays out with team selections - probably because it focuses more on consensus 
 I have no idea why, or reason to substantiate it, but I have had a feeling all along that we pick Danielson (and I do think we need to draft a C)
 
 Would be awesome to get another pick in the 18-20 range and grab Simashev
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		|  06-22-2023, 10:27 AM | #1687 |  
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			Hope Danielson is prepared to no longer be an Oilers fan
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		|  06-22-2023, 10:31 AM | #1688 |  
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I’d be happy with anyone in that top 16. ASP at 14 is only giving me hope he drops to us. I know he won’t
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		|  06-22-2023, 10:42 AM | #1689 |  
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					Originally Posted by Enoch Root  I always like Mackenzie's list, as I think his is always the closest to how it actually plays out with team selections - probably because it focuses more on consensus 
 I have no idea why, or reason to substantiate it, but I have had a feeling all along that we pick Danielson (and I do think we need to draft a C)
 
 Would be awesome to get another pick in the 18-20 range and grab Simashev
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Agreed - we may have gotten lucky (although E-Mac's hard work probably made his own luck), but for the 2022 draft, Upside's E-Mac's final rankings actually nailed down more prospects from the 1st round than even Bobby Margarita's list (only by 1 or 2 prospects mind you lol, but still...not bad).
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		|  06-22-2023, 10:51 AM | #1690 |  
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			Updates to a few lists ... still sitting at 21 rankings.
 Tier 1
 1	Connor Bedard	C	1.00
 2	Adam Fantilli	C	2.05
 3	Matvei Michkov	RW	3.57
 4	Leo Carlsson	C	3.81
 5	Will Smith	C	5.05
 
 Tier 2 is really just Benson
 
 6	Zach Benson	F	7.29
 
 Tier 3
 7	Ryan Leonard	C	9.24
 8	Dalibor Dvorsky	C	10.33
 9	Oliver Moore	C	11.52
 10	Axel Sandin Pellikka	D	12.14
 11	David Reinbacher	D	12.19
 
 Flames Tier
 
 12	Colby Barlow	LW	15.62
 13	Gabe Perreault	RW	15.62
 14	Matthew Wood	F	16.29
 15	Nate Danielson	C	17.52
 16	Eduard Sale	RW	18.67
 17	Brayden Yager	C	20.14
 18	Dmitri Simashev	D	20.83
 19	Samuel Honzek	C	21.24
 20	Quentin Musty	LW	21.35
 21	Andrew Cristall	LW	21.52
 22	Otto Stenberg	C	22.00
 23	Tom Willander	D	22.58
 
 Tier 5
 24	Gavin Brindley	RW	23.60
 25	Mikhail Gulyayev	D	23.76
 26	Calum Ritchie	C	24.75
 27	Daniil But	LW	24.95
 28	Riley Heidt	F	28.10
 
 Likely for the Flames 2nd round pick ...
 
 35	Michael Hrabal	G	41.24
 36	Tanner Molendyk	D	41.35
 37	Jayden Perron	D	42.88
 38	Kasper Halttunen	RW	43.00
 39	Charlie Stramel	C	43.65
 40	Nick Lardis	LW	44.39
 41	Koehn Ziemmer	RW	45.72
 42	Gracyn Sawchyn	RW	45.88
 43	Anton Wahlberg	C	46.78
 44	William Whitelaw	C	47.65
 45	Theo Lindstein	D	48.68
 46	Maxim Strbak	C	50.06
 47	Etienne Morin	RW	51.29
 48	Trey Augustine	LW	51.71
 49	Luca Cagnoni	D	52.29
 50	Kalan Lind	F	53.40
 51	Caden Price	D	54.35
 52	Carson Rehkopf	LW	54.69
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		|  06-22-2023, 11:06 AM | #1691 |  
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			what is the contract status of the other top Russians? If Michkov drops 5-8 spots due to contact and 'Russian factor', how much will the others drop? Have scouts seen these guys play as much or as little as they have seen Michkov?
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		|  06-22-2023, 11:29 AM | #1692 |  
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					Originally Posted by dammage79  Those are sweet sweet words to read. Simashev is my favorite D prospect in this draft. To me he's a defenseman unicorn. Skates like Gaudreau but is 6'4". And that's not hyperbole,  go watch his videos.
 
 Now I really want the Flames to trade for another mid 1st. Simashev and a Center would be the best friggin outcome for the Flames at this stage.
 
 One can dream.
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Great post.  I hadn’t watched him until you suggested it.  Unreal player at that age.  Does it all.  Skating looked terrific.
		 
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		|  06-22-2023, 12:13 PM | #1693 |  
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					Originally Posted by dammage79  Nate Danielson @16. Yes please. |  
Watched some highlights and read some reviews on him.  Reminds of Monahan with better wheels.  Yes please.  
 
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		|  06-22-2023, 12:26 PM | #1694 |  
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					Originally Posted by stemit14  Watched some highlights and read some reviews on him.  Reminds of Monahan with better wheels.  Yes please.  
 
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I thought the same thing, Mony with wheels and a two-way game, lol.
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		|  06-22-2023, 12:28 PM | #1695 |  
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					Originally Posted by dustygoon  Great post.  I hadn’t watched him until you suggested it.  Unreal player at that age.  Does it all.  Skating looked terrific. |  
Major untapped offensive game lurking just below the surface, waiting to explode.
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		|  06-22-2023, 12:29 PM | #1696 |  
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					Originally Posted by dammage79  Nate Danielson @16. Yes please. |  
Still my fave for our pick.
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		|  06-22-2023, 12:31 PM | #1697 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sandman  I thought the same thing, Mony with wheels and a two-way game, lol. |  
In the range where the flames are picking, he seems like the safest pick.  That’s why I would love for the flames to find a way to acquire another 1st round pick in that range (13th to 18th overall) so they could do both the safe pick (Danielson/Yager) and the riskier pick (Sale/Wood/Perreault/Cristall).  
 
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		|  06-22-2023, 12:31 PM | #1698 |  
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			It may be the BCHL Makar factor, but I have this weird feeling that Bradly Nadeau is going to end up being a steal either late 1st or early 2nd, his game looks so refined.
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		|  06-22-2023, 12:35 PM | #1699 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mass_nerder  I watch approximately zero CHL hockey, and these highlights are a very small sample, so I have no clue whether this is accurate, but what stands out to me is how he attacks from the outside a lot. He's big and can skate, so why isn't he driving the center of the ice more? He's clearly a good skater, but doesn't have McDavid level speed so he's not going to be able to beat NHL defensemen outside consistently.We desperately need a few skilled players that can drive the center of the ice. No more guys who play on the periphery.
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Danielson does attack the middle, it’s part of his game, but in those clips he’s manipulating the middle of the ice by drawing defenders to him, and /or faking shots/passes, thereby opening space in the middle to pass to teammates. Manipulation, deception, and exploitation, lol.
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		|  06-22-2023, 12:50 PM | #1700 |  
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					Originally Posted by Royle9  It may be the BCHL Makar factor, but I have this weird feeling that Bradly Nadeau is going to end up being a steal either late 1st or early 2nd, his game looks so refined. |  
One of the top-5 shots in the draft.
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