05-12-2023, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by blender
I disagree.
Tkachuk is a level above. He is elite defensively, drives play among the best, and has all the intangibles as well. He's the real deal and always has been. The hype is justified.
I'm as frustrated as the next Flames fan that he isn't on the team anymore, but he's an elite player. He's among the playoff scoring leaders as well if there was any doubt about his playoff game.
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Not arguing whether he is elite or not, but Hart is about regular season performance. He was a huge factor in the Panthers making the playoffs, but between playing in the East and media hype that's what got him the nomination. He's not going to win regardless.
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05-12-2023, 07:24 PM
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#22
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I shall take both my Tkachuk jerseys out for a walk later
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05-12-2023, 07:35 PM
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#23
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Not arguing whether he is elite or not, but Hart is about regular season performance. He was a huge factor in the Panthers making the playoffs, but between playing in the East and media hype that's what got him the nomination. He's not going to win regardless.
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I know you aren't saying he's not a good player, but I just don't think it's media hype.
Honestly, who had a better regular season other than McDavid and Pastrnak?
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05-12-2023, 07:37 PM
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#24
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Originally Posted by blender
I know you aren't saying he's not a good player, but I just don't think it's media hype.
Honestly, who had a better regular season other than McDavid and Pastrnak?
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Mackinnon had a phenomenal season.
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05-12-2023, 08:16 PM
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#25
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GOAT!
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I know the Hart is only for this season, but just for kicks, here are some stats for the last two regular seasons.
Players with at least 200 total points over the last two regular seasons
C. McDavid 278P
L. Draisaitl 238P
M. Tkachuk 213P
Only players above +70 total over the last two regular seasons
D. Towes +91
M. Tkachuk +86
Everybody loves Patrice Bergeron, right? Over the last two regular seasons:
M. Tkachuk 161GP, 82G, 131A, 213P, 1.32PGP, +86, 147EVP
P. Bergeron 151GP, 52G, 71A, 123P, 0.81PGP, +61, 76EVP
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05-12-2023, 08:45 PM
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#26
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McDavid and it better be unanimous.
Love or hate the Oilers, the Hart isn't up for debate.
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05-12-2023, 08:49 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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McDavid will obviously win it. Chucky definitely deserved to be a finalist this year. Sucks he didn’t want to stay but life moves on. One day the Flames will eventually have a Hart finalist again
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05-12-2023, 08:59 PM
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05-12-2023, 09:52 PM
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It’s a regular season award.
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05-12-2023, 10:48 PM
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Voted for Kodos
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Frankly, I’m going to have to disagree with people who say that McDavid should be unanimous.
McDavid is too one dimensional.
Tkachuk dragged that team to the playoffs. It should be him.
Mackinnon probably ahead of McDavid too.
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05-12-2023, 10:48 PM
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#31
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Tkachuk has established himself as the 3rd best player in the league in my eyes.
Two Oilers and a player that noped-out of the Flames.
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05-12-2023, 11:00 PM
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#32
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A Hart Finalist who dragged his team into the playoffs and has led them to the Conference Finals. Why can’t we have players like that on the Flames?
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05-12-2023, 11:14 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Pain.
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05-12-2023, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nieuwy-89
A Hart Finalist who dragged his team into the playoffs and has led them to the Conference Finals. Why can’t we have players like that on the Flames?
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Don’t worry he doesn’t come to play in the playoffs
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05-12-2023, 11:47 PM
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#35
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Chucky is a superstar and should have been locked up as a Flame for a very long time.
So glad Brad Treliving is gone.
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05-12-2023, 11:53 PM
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#36
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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
Frankly, I’m going to have to disagree with people who say that McDavid should be unanimous.
McDavid is too one dimensional.
Tkachuk dragged that team to the playoffs. It should be him.
Mackinnon probably ahead of McDavid too.
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Lol be serious...he dragged them to 92 points
This will be the biggest landslide in Hart history
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05-12-2023, 11:54 PM
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#37
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
Don’t worry he doesn’t come to play in the playoffs
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Chucky has no use for the Hart. He’s going to win the Conn Smythe.
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05-12-2023, 11:56 PM
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#38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Chucky has no use for the Hart. He’s going to win the Conn Smythe.
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That would guarantee the oilers not winning so I'm in
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05-13-2023, 12:12 AM
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#39
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Interesting the MVP voted by the players had Karlsson in place of Tkachuk
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05-13-2023, 12:35 AM
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#40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Lol be serious...he dragged them to 92 points
This will be the biggest landslide in Hart history
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It is too bad. According to this place Tkachuk would never reach 100 points again. I Think that's Huberdeau.
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