Flames' Pride Night slotted for March 28 vs. LA

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

CP has been friendly to the anti vax, pro convoy, anti BLM, anti pride/inclusion for 3 full years now. No end in sight and we all know why.

I don't know why but I'm morbidly curious. demographics?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Honestly, Pepsifree seems like he'd be a pretty cool dad.

He would look FABULOUS is white New Balance shoes, cargo shorts and a loose golf shirt mowing his lawn.

[undercoverbrother]

What the #### happened in this thread.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

He would look FABULOUS is white New Balance shoes, cargo shorts and a loose golf shirt mowing his lawn.

Oh god take it back.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Oh god take it back.

One of us one of us

Spoiler!

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

CP has been friendly to the anti vax, pro convoy, anti BLM, anti pride/inclusion for 3 full years now. No end in sight and we all know why.

By "friendly" do you mean the CP mods don't just ban people for expressing these views outright?

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Yeah, you're right. Politics only started in 2016.

I am talking about the Fire On Ice board specifically.

Here's Fire On Ice in 2006 for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20060618...isplay.php?f=6

Nothing but hockey talk.

[GullFoss]

I find there's three or four posters who are overly vocal and argumentative about the moral high-ground of their political ideology and find reasons to bring them up in multiple threads.

There's always been bullies on this board, but it used to be that they would shout you down over their hockey assessments rather their political ones.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

The “funny thing” is this isn’t politics. It’s basic human decency, supporting a group which has been marginalized, abused, literally beaten and killed, and kept down for most of their existence, simply because of who they are.

If that's all these threads were then I would agree.

But instead pejoratives like "bigot", "homophobe", "racist", "fascist", etc. get thrown around here like this is a Tourette syndrome support group meeting. I know LGBT+ is a sensitive topic for many, I just don't think the name calling is contributing to a healthy discussion.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by cannon7

If that's all these threads were then I would agree.

But instead pejoratives like "bigot", "homophobe", "racist", "fascist", etc. get thrown around here like this is a Tourette syndrome support group meeting. I know LGBT+ is a sensitive topic for many, I just don't think the name calling is contributing to a healthy discussion.

I mean, if a gay person makes a person uncomfortable, they're being homophobic. If someone is talking concerns about 'race replacement' they're being racist.

I also think you're Tourette's joke is in bad taste. At any rate people react to what they feel is name calling. Fine. But I suspect folks would be as upset if someone more accurately named their behavior as X, instead of you are an X.

Fwiw I also think that your Tourette comment in bad taste.

And who are you referring to as a sensitive topic? Sensitive for the folks that feel Pride Night is thrown in their face and this tread shouldn't be in Fire on Ice? Or actual queer people?

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

I mean, if a gay person makes a person uncomfortable, they're being homophobic. If someone is talking concerns about 'race replacement' they're being racist.

I don't necessarily agree. I think for many the colloquial use of "homophobe", for example, means to hate gay people. And I think there is a large gap between "feeling uncomfortable" and "hating".

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

I also think you're Tourette's joke is in bad taste.

Fwiw I also think that your Tourette comment in bad taste.

You'd probably find most of my jokes to be in bad taste then. That's OK, to each their own.

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

At any rate people react to what they feel is name calling. Fine. But I suspect folks would be as upset if someone more accurately named their behavior as X, instead of you are an X.

I agree, I think it would be more productive to challenge the viewpoint in this way.

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

And who are you referring to as a sensitive topic? Sensitive for the folks that feel Pride Night is thrown in their face and this tread shouldn't be in Fire on Ice? Or actual queer people?

I think both can be true?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I am talking about the Fire On Ice board specifically.

Here's Fire On Ice in 2006 for example: https://web.archive.org/web/20060618...isplay.php?f=6

Nothing but hockey talk.

Taking a screen shot from a single day back in 2006 is a silly way to try and prove your point. Do you think that broader hockey related topics didn't make it's way to the board back then? I'm not using the word political because I don't view this as a political issue at all.

By the way though there are 30 topics currently on page 1 of Calgarypuck. 29 of them are purely hockey related.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I don't even know what "purely hockey related" means. Like, there's a thread on page 1 about who makes the uniforms. That has nothing to do with the actual play going on on the ice... is that thread somehow objectionable too?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by cannon7

By "friendly" do you mean the CP mods don't just ban people for expressing these views outright?

The mods don't ban people for spreading dangerous misinformation, hate and outright racism and homophobia.

And we're all better for it. The forum sure is.

But don't worry, we ban people for insulting other members and have a swear filter to protect us. That keeps everything civil.

Barely better than twitter but fall short on the moral high ground to reddit. Something we can all be proud of.

[CroFlames]

Do funny gifs and memes count as hockey related? We might need to ban those too in celebratory PGTs.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Taking a screen shot from a single day back in 2006 is a silly way to try and prove your point. Do you think that broader hockey related topics didn't make it's way to the board back then? I'm not using the word political because I don't view this as a political issue at all.

By the way though there are 30 topics currently on page 1 of Calgarypuck. 29 of them are purely hockey related.

I could have taken a snapshot of 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, etc. But I thought that would be belaboring the point. There is a "Next" button on the Internet Archive though, if you'd like to try this exercise for yourself.

This may not be political for you. That's fine. LGBT+ on its own isn't that political for me, either.

But that's not what is happening in these threads. Unless you're just willfully ignoring the derisive/inflammatory posts? Then sure. If we ignore the name calling, the uncharitable takes, the drudging up and conflation of poster's previously expressed views, the calling for posters to be banned, etc. Then this is just a thread about a good cause.

[ResAlien]

If all you want is hockey talk then maybe stick to hockey talk? No one’s forcing you to continue dragging this out.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

The mods don't ban people for spreading dangerous misinformation, hate and outright racism and homophobia.

And we're all better for it. The forum sure is.

But don't worry, we ban people for insulting other members and have a swear filter to protect us. That keeps everything civil.

Barely better than twitter but fall short on the moral high ground to reddit. Something we can all be proud of.

Do we even have mods anymore? Honestly Jiri was the only one I knew was a mod before he stepped down

Edit: oh and Kootenay

I'm pretty familiar with the nooks and crannies of vb3 and haven't found a list or anything like that in the faq or elsewhere. Now I'm curious, there's rules about obeying the mods but now that I think of it, i have no idea who they are

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I don't even know what "purely hockey related" means. Like, there's a thread on page 1 about who makes the uniforms. That has nothing to do with the actual play going on on the ice... is that thread somehow objectionable too?

I was struggling to find what word to use. But there is a subset that seem to objecting to these topics appearing within the hockey forum.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Do we even have mods anymore? Honestly Jiri was the only one I knew was a mod before he stepped down

Edit: oh and Kootenay

I'm pretty familiar with the nooks and crannies of vb3 and haven't found a list or anything like that in the faq or elsewhere. Now I'm curious, there's rules about obeying the mods but now that I think of it, i have no idea who they are

What if I told you I quietly became a mod again?

Don't worry I didn't.

Or did I...