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The Cobra · 03-20-2023, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Oh god, Flames didn't trade nine years of Tkachuk he demanded a trade to one of a handful of teams. Flames traded one year of Tkachuk as he was a pending ufa

Tkachuk hosed the Flames

So, a player has to stay with the team that drafted him now?

Tkachuk exercised his right the change teams, and he did the Flames a huge favour of advising them of his intention to do so.

The Flames often sign players who have hosed their original team.

dino7c · 03-20-2023, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

So, a player has to stay with the team that drafted him now?

Tkachuk exercised his right the change teams, and he did the Flames a huge favour of advising them of his intention to do so.

The Flames often sign players who have hosed their original team.

Six weeks after publicly stating he wanted to stay...at the very least he put them in a tough situation.

kukkudo · 03-20-2023, 06:55 PM

6 points till he hits 100, tonight they can move into a wildcard spot. Panthers been playing some good hockey lately.

Aarongavey · 03-20-2023, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kukkudo

6 points till he hits 100, tonight they can move into a wildcard spot. Panthers been playing some good hockey lately.

After tonight they will be 13-5-1 in the last 19 games and they win the tiebreaker against Pittsburgh.

FanIn80 · 03-20-2023, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Both things are true

He has been above 80 points twice

Why stop there? He's only been above 77 points twice.

dino7c · 03-20-2023, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

Why stop there? He's only been above 77 points twice.

Well if people want to say things like perrenial 100 point player to a guy who has done it twice

zamler · 03-20-2023, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UnitedFlames

I wonder how Huberdeau feels when he reads stuff like this? It has to bother him a little.

FanIn80 · 03-20-2023, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Well if people want to say things like perenial 100 point player to a guy who has done it twice

His last two seasons. His 24th and 25th year of age.

This last offseason it was "he'll never hit 100 again." This upcoming offseason it's gonna be "but he's only done it twice." I wonder what'll be the next excuse?

Johnny Makarov · 03-20-2023, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

He will also be above 100 points twice after this season.

and he'll prob still suck in the playoffs if they are playing the 1st or 2nd seed.

Did you guys just magically forget the Unicorn's playoff history? lol

dino7c · 03-20-2023, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

His last two seasons. His 24th and 25th year of age.

This last offseason it was "he'll never hit 100 again." This upcoming offseason it's gonna be "but he's only done it twice." I wonder what'll be the next excuse?

Okay, doesn't mean he will get 100 every year...a lot has to go right to just make it

He might do it again next season but I would take the under

Aarongavey · 03-20-2023, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

and he'll prob still suck in the playoffs if they are playing the 1st or 2nd seed.

Did you guys just magically forget the Unicorn's playoff history? lol

Hopefully the Flames are better in the playoffs this year than Tkachuk is, that would be a nice way to finish the year.

dino7c · 03-20-2023, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

and he'll prob still suck in the playoffs if they are playing the 1st or 2nd seed.

Did you guys just magically forget the Unicorn's playoff history? lol

Well yeah they will run and gun with Boston or Carolina and it probably won't go well should they make it

Aarongavey · 03-20-2023, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Okay, doesn't mean he will get 100 every year...a lot has to go right to just make it

He might do it again next season but I would take the under

You will eventually be correct on the under, could be next year.

dino7c · 03-20-2023, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

You will eventually be correct on the under, could be next year.

That's the point...he said perennial 100 point scorer, might be a little premature

FanIn80 · 03-20-2023, 07:51 PM

Well I guess if the criteria of being a perennial 100 point player is that they have to get 100 points every single season, then nobody in NHL history has been a perennial 100 point player.

I'm pretty sure the label is used to describe a player who is a threat to hit 100 every year.

Incidentally, he just got another 3 points tonight to move to 4th place with 95pts in 67 games

Aarongavey · 03-20-2023, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

That's the point...he said perennial 100 point scorer, might be a little premature

Well not sure I would say perennial but Tkachuk is appearing to be getting better. If he had played all 82 games this year (which he can’t) he would be on pace for 116 points. As is he is on pace for 112 points in 79 games. Impressive no matter how you slice it. Just another proof point of the value of signing guys for as long as you can coming out of ELC. Way more likely to get value on an overpayment on a young guy than paying a UFA what is perceived to be market value at the time of the UFA signing (not trying to start a debate about whether Tkachuk would have signed longterm, just observing that in my opinion that should be the goal of most teams, overpay for term on young players and use UFA as a secondary source for players once young guys are locked up longterm).

FanIn80 · 03-20-2023, 07:54 PM

14 points in his last 5 games, and unlike when I embarrassingly got it wrong on the weekend, Florida is actually now in a playoff spot.

The Cobra · 03-20-2023, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Six weeks after publicly stating he wanted to stay...at the very least he put them in a tough situation.

Again, he has every right to choose where he wants to play.

He hosed no one.

It’s time that Flame’s fans get over a player choosing to leave.

Every point he gets seems to drive another knife into your heart.

Johnny Makarov · 03-20-2023, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

14 points in his last 5 games, and unlike when I embarrassingly got it wrong on the weekend, Florida is actually now in a playoff spot.

He had 104 points with us last year. Still didn't stop him from effing off in the playoffs where he did jack squat for 10 of 12 games.

powderjunkie · 03-20-2023, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonded

I think the biggest misstep is not keeping Valimaki and placing Kylington LTIR or something. I just really don’t think they thought he would get claimed. If you believe Tre the coyotes were the only claim. I think biggest waiver miss was Tolvanen for the Flames

Problem with LTIR is that you can't accrue any cap space. It's not this magical get out of jail free card that so many people seem to think it is.

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Originally Posted by FanIn80

A 25 year old perenial 100pt play-driving/finishing power forward @ 9.5Mx8yrs for a 29 year old playmaker that doesn't drive or finish plays @ 10.5Mx7yrs, a 29 year old 2-4 defenceman @ 6.25Mx7yrs, an AHL player and a 15th overall pick.

I admit to 100% thinking we pulled off the steal of the century when it happened (and I was one of the few who said Tkachuk was going to be good)... but I'm firmly in the camp of thinking we got hosed big time now.

Edit: I guess the trade itself was still pretty good. It was really us that hosed ourselves by signing both of them to max term before seeing them in action under Sutter.

LOL. You have an inaccuracy for each and every component of the trade - except maybe Schwindt, where 'AHL player' isn't technically inaccurate, but a premature label for a 21yo who did play 3 NHL games for the President's Trophy winning team