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Old 02-28-2023, 05:16 PM   #181
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I think this is a terrible trade. I thought Barrie played a super important role for the Oilers. Ekholm is older and has a lot of mileage on him. Barrie is 12th in the NHL in D points and is the only D who contributes on the PP, which is the Oilers’ differentiating factor.

They also mortgaged their future for the “upgrade”. If Ekholm was the Ekholm of 4-5 years ago, this would worry me.
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:17 PM   #182
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This seems to me like shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.

Nothing to see here.
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:25 PM   #183
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This sucks.
As much as we all hate Edmonton, they made the Western final last year and McDavid will elevate his play in the playoffs again.

Hopefully their goaltending does them in or Vegas/Colorado are strong enough.
Forcing myself to be unbiased, they have a decent path to the finals this year, the West isn't strong.
Disagree.

Using the current standings, their path would be LA (much improved from last year, and they almost beat the Oil last year), then VGS, and they are not to be taken lightly, then COL

If you make it through that (they won't), you get the Eastern conf champs.
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:28 PM   #184
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Disagree.

Using the current standings, their path would be LA (much improved from last year, and they almost beat the Oil last year), then VGS, and they are not to be taken lightly, then COL

If you make it through that (they won't), you get the Eastern conf champs.

And Edmonton is worse. Neither Smith nor Keith are there and they were big contributors.
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:30 PM   #185
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lol, join date Feb 2023....2nd post ever

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I didn't think Edmonton had a single top-pair defenceman before they made this trade and I still don't think they have one now.
I think Ekholm is a top pairing d-man. After him the Oilers don't have a single top 4 d-man. Nurse is like a #5/6 d-man making stupid money, If the Oilers are smart they would go after EK65 in the offseason. Now Evan Bouchard is on the top PP unit, watch him rack up pts and demand a crazy contract, the guy has no idea how to play defence, just like his pal Nurse.
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:34 PM   #186
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Oilers are making moves to fix their flaws. Paying a big price to do it.

Good teams are loading up on depth

Oilers just did a couple moves that moved 2 guys out for 1. They already play top players too much to make it through 4 rounds. They just don’t have the depth to win
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:35 PM   #187
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Coilers Reddit are bummed to see Barrie go but are pumped at the deal. Cup parade is on.

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Old 02-28-2023, 05:39 PM   #188
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I think Ekholm is a top pairing d-man. After him the Oilers don't have a single top 4 d-man. Nurse is like a #5/6 d-man making stupid money, If the Oilers are smart they would go after EK65 in the offseason. Now Evan Bouchard is on the top PP unit, watch him rack up pts and demand a crazy contract, the guy has no idea how to play defence, just like his pal Nurse.
As much as I like to dump on the Oilers, Nurse is a #3/4D. I don't think they would have the cap space to chase Karlsson... They will have $8.5M in cap space to fill in 7-9 roster spots.
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:54 PM   #189
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As bad as Barrie has been defensively, he's been good on the power play.

He's been in on 63.5% of the Oilers total power play time/game which ranks 5th on the team, so essentially he's been a part of the top unit.

He's got 4G and 24A operating on the PP.

Ekholm's played 18% of Nashville's PP and has a total of 0 PPG and 3 PPA.
While not comparable directly, since the Edmonton's top unit is much more potent, this is something to observe going forward.

I'm guessing they expect Bouchard to fill the gap left by Barrie's departure and not Ekholm.
I'm guessing they are still going after Karlsson and going to dump Ceci.
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:54 PM   #190
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Re Reid Schafer: How often do teams trade their 1st round draft choice eight months after selecting them?

He's an Edmonton native as well... "we're proud to select you, but GTFO because we need a defenceman".
is this the kid who didn't react after they drafted him???? like zero excitement or is that someone else?
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:55 PM   #191
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Is the 1st protected? Would love to see the Oilers slide out of the playoffs and that be a top 15 pick.
If I'm Nashville I'd have asked for the Oilers' 2024 1st rounder instead.

They're barely going to be able to ice a team next season.
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Retaining 4% is such a subtle #### you to the Oilers.

"yeah, sure, we'll do some retention, but just the tiniest amount so that you can't go and get anyone else. Oh by the way, #### you."
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is this the kid who didn't react after they drafted him???? like zero excitement or is that someone else?
That was Holloway.
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Pretty decent haul for the preds.

Flames could have done well if they put hanafin on the market. Could have picked up more now than on the offseason in my opinion, if they don’t intend on extending him.
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Old 02-28-2023, 06:16 PM   #195
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I think this is a terrible trade. I thought Barrie played a super important role for the Oilers. Ekholm is older and has a lot of mileage on him. Barrie is 12th in the NHL in D points and is the only D who contributes on the PP, which is the Oilers’ differentiating factor.

They also mortgaged their future for the “upgrade”. If Ekholm was the Ekholm of 4-5 years ago, this would worry me.
Imo if it was Bouchard like someone rumored, they'd have gotten much better right now

Here's to hoping the auto PP is even 5% worse than it was, which is the oilers only weapon/hope for winning games

And yeah-Ekholms peak was between 2-5 years ago
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Old 02-28-2023, 06:19 PM   #196
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Would actually like to see Hanifin for a big haul, use part for Barrie. Have some picks and much needed rh pp specialist.
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Old 02-28-2023, 06:37 PM   #197
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Pretty much added a older Adam Larson and more expensive.

Not sure he makes much of an impact.

Would be hilarious if they miss the playoffs and the pick is in the lottery
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Old 02-28-2023, 06:38 PM   #198
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lol AND?

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Old 02-28-2023, 06:38 PM   #199
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Pretty much added a older Adam Larson and more expensive.

Not sure he makes much of an impact.

Would be hilarious if they miss the playoffs and the pick is in the lottery
That's the player I was trying to think of! I knew Edmonton tried to go big on a defensive D before and forgot who it was. Thanks!
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I think he fills a need for the Oilers and they are slightly better today because of the trade. I don't know if he moves the needle that much though. I guess we'll have to see if he can adjust to the Oilers anti-defense system.
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