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			Clifton is like whew, it was Clitfon not me.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2023, 05:07 PM
			
			
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			These kind of trades end up having a way bigger impact on playoff success than big name free agents...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-23-2023, 05:07 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  ComixZone
					 
				 
				They should be selling players that are pending UFAs or near free agency (Lindholm, Hanifin), with money retained if needed. 
 
It’s not just expiring players that get traded. Look back one year ago when we paid a premium for Toffoli, who was on a very reasonable deal just like Lindy and Hanifin. 
			
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Players with term are rarely traded at the deadline. Don’t get your hopes up.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2023, 05:08 PM
			
			
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			Wasn’t Zboril taken with the Dougie Hamilton traded pick? Could’ve been Barzal Chabot or Connor…
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2023, 05:10 PM
			
			
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				Wasn’t Zboril taken with the Dougie Hamilton traded pick? Could’ve been Barzal Chabot or Connor… 
			
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That’s my favourite draft miss of all time. Three back to back picks blown
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2023, 05:10 PM
			
			
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			What's crazy is that Boston is still this good despite wiffing so bad on that draft. Imagine them with Barzal, Chabot, or Connor.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2023, 05:11 PM
			
			
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				What's crazy is that Boston is still this good despite wiffing so bad on that draft. Imagine them with Barzal, Chabot, or Connor. 
			
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Now imagine them with all 3
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2023, 05:11 PM
			
			
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				Lol, yup Capitals totally dismantling their core by selling a 19 point aging UFA dman, and a 15 point UFA grinder. 
			
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Just because you sell doesn't mean you have to rebuild. Orlov also averages 23 mins a night. That would be like saying trading Tanev is nothing
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2023, 05:12 PM
			
			
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			02-23-2023, 05:12 PM
			
			
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			02-23-2023, 05:13 PM
			
			
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			02-23-2023, 05:15 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  ComixZone
					 
				 
				They should be selling players that are pending UFAs or near free agency (Lindholm, Hanifin), with money retained if needed. 
 
It’s not just expiring players that get traded. Look back one year ago when we paid a premium for Toffoli, who was on a very reasonable deal just like Lindy and Hanifin. 
			
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Okay, but then what does that accomplish in terms of having Huberdeau, Kadri, Markstrom, Mangiapane, Coleman, Weegar and Andersson all signed to big money, long-term deals? 
 
The Flames can and should certainly try to make hockey deals ahead of next season, but that isn't really done at the deadline. The draft and summer is where this will happen and really is where you will maximize return on non rentals.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-23-2023, 05:15 PM
			
			
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			02-23-2023, 05:16 PM
			
			
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			Holy #%^* 
 
1st + 2nd + 3rd. 
 
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			02-23-2023, 05:17 PM
			
			
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			02-23-2023, 05:17 PM
			
			
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			Good trade for Washington.  
 
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			02-23-2023, 05:18 PM
			
			
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				Lol, yup Capitals totally dismantling their core by selling a 19 point aging UFA dman, and a 15 point UFA grinder. 
			
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and the poster you quoted wants the team to move Lindholm and Hanifin.  Yeah, like those things are the same.  Because EVERY team likes to trade their 20-something stars who still have another year on sweet deals.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2023, 05:18 PM
			
			
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				That’s my favourite draft miss of all time. Three back to back picks blown 
			
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I think it shows how much of a crap shoot the draft can be even in the first round.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2023, 05:18 PM
			
			
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				Okay, but then what does that accomplish in terms of having Huberdeau, Kadri, Markstrom, Mangiapane, Coleman, Weegar and Andersson all signed to big money, long-term deals?  
 
The Flames can and should certainly try to make hockey deals ahead of next season, but that isn't really done at the deadline. The draft and summer is where this will happen and really is where you will maximize return on non rentals. 
			
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No, they shouldn’t try to make hockey deals. They don’t have the players to win in this league. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can begin fixing that.
 
Any team built on the players you noted is not a contender.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-23-2023, 05:20 PM
			
			
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			that is a big haul for WAS, for a couple of depth guys (even though they are both solid, depth guys)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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