01-26-2023, 12:04 PM
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#681
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Originally Posted by Nadal Fan
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I could have told you that with my eyes closed.
Streaming is (was?) a great idea.
Until everyone had to have their own streaming service, it fractured into a million different competing content providers and now each service is essentially just its own 'channel' providing its own content 'on demand.'
We just full circle. A slate of streaming services is essentially just cable with more steps.
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01-26-2023, 12:11 PM
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#682
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
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Originally Posted by Locke
I could have told you that with my eyes closed.
Streaming is (was?) a great idea.
Until everyone had to have their own streaming service, it fractured into a million different competing content providers and now each service is essentially just its own 'channel' providing its own content 'on demand.'
We just full circle. A slate of streaming services is essentially just cable with more steps.
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But that's not really what the article is about. The number of streaming services isn't really relevant if none of them can make money regardless of how many subscribers they have.
It's about how ad revenue is lower than TV and production costs are rising, meaning it is harder and harder to make money.
It's not even really accurate to say streaming services aren't the money maker they used to be. They never have been. Netflix only worked when they were able to build a catalog of second run programs for cheap. As soon as first run programming became a staple, they hit a wall.
Streaming generates lower revenue across the board and by a huge number. The article says six times lower than cable.
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01-26-2023, 02:57 PM
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#683
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I don't think studios realized how much they would be missing home video and sales rental revenue once it dried up. Let's take the new Avatar movie that made over $2 billion at the box office, once it's done in theatres it will go straight to Disney+. Is there anyone that doesn't already have Disney+ that is going to sign up for it just to see Avatar 2? The first Avatar made over $400 million in home video sales not to mention hundreds of millions in rental revenue from Blockbusters probably. I don't see how Avatar 2 is going to be anywhere near as profitable post theatrical window as the first.
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01-26-2023, 04:54 PM
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#684
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Nadal Fan
I don't think studios realized how much they would be missing home video and sales rental revenue once it dried up. Let's take the new Avatar movie that made over $2 billion at the box office, once it's done in theatres it will go straight to Disney+. Is there anyone that doesn't already have Disney+ that is going to sign up for it just to see Avatar 2? The first Avatar made over $400 million in home video sales not to mention hundreds of millions in rental revenue from Blockbusters probably. I don't see how Avatar 2 is going to be anywhere near as profitable post theatrical window as the first.
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I don't know if that's a totally fair way to look at it. The streaming services do need new contact to retain existing customers. If a program is getting a lot of individual streams, it's a good indicator that the program is contributing to keeping existing customers.
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02-18-2023, 10:44 AM
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#686
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Originally Posted by Nadal Fan
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I’d bet on bad legs though. Nothing in this will have people needing to see.
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02-18-2023, 01:18 PM
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#687
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Originally Posted by GGG
I’d bet on bad legs though. Nothing in this will have people needing to see.
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Hard to say, Venom had Stacey Keibler legs and wasn't a critical darling.
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02-18-2023, 02:44 PM
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#688
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Nadal Fan
Hard to say, Venom had Stacey Keibler legs and wasn't a critical darling.
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Marvel has a built in fanbase that always results in relatively high pre sales and openings. I don't see Quantumania having great legs.
I was somewhat excited to see it. Now that I've seen the reviews I may wait until it streams.
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02-22-2023, 06:40 PM
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#689
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Avatar 2, takes over 3rd overall All-time International box office.
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02-25-2023, 04:33 PM
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#691
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Yep collapsing at the box office. Maybe that’ll be a wake up call for Marvel, this will probably be the norm going forward
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02-26-2023, 11:08 PM
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#692
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Marvel may have just beaten BVS for worst 2nd weekend drop for a comic book movie. I suspect it squeaks by when actual come it but right now the estimates have it about .5% points worse
I think guardians needs to reset the narrative and to do that they just need to make a good movie. If guardians under performs then the Marvels is in real trouble and then you are heading into the Star Wars situation.
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03-06-2023, 03:25 PM
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#693
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Creed 3 with a bigger opener than all other Rocky movies combined? Great reviews so far too.
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03-06-2023, 07:16 PM
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#694
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Originally Posted by blankall
Creed 3 with a bigger opener than all other Rocky movies combined? Great reviews so far too.
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Not wanting to derail the thread, but Life magazine has lots of tributes to the original rocky movies.
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04-18-2023, 01:13 PM
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#695
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Originally Posted by Nadal Fan
I have a feeling Mario will do well, but I think it will preform like Sonic and finish in the say 300mill range world wide.
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Bit of a rough Nadal Fan prediction here lol.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...150814110.html
Mario Movie a box office sensation and showing great legs, looking at $550M+ domestic and should easily cross $1b worldwide. Will almost certainly be the #1 movie of the year.
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04-18-2023, 01:34 PM
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#696
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
Bit of a rough Nadal Fan prediction here lol.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...150814110.html
Mario Movie a box office sensation and showing great legs, looking at $550M+ domestic and should easily cross $1b worldwide. Will almost certainly be the #1 movie of the year. |
Until they release another Avatar!
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04-18-2023, 03:30 PM
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#698
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Lifetime Suspension
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Mario doesn't even release in Japan until the end of month.
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04-18-2023, 04:55 PM
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#699
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Originally Posted by Matata
Mario doesn't even release in Japan until the end of month.
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Intriguing. I wonder why?
What are the predictions there? I'm under the impression that the Japanese are going to go insane for this movie.
Like, riots and general mayhem.
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04-18-2023, 05:00 PM
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#700
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Originally Posted by Locke
Intriguing. I wonder why?
What are the predictions there? I'm under the impression that the Japanese are going to go insane for this movie.
Like, riots and general mayhem.
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The best grossing movies in Japan in any given year usually pull in around $100M US -- probably a good expectation for this.
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