Huberdeau's agent: "Negativity sucks the joy right out of players"

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Considering you missed the point of the post, you're barely worth responding to.

Sutter already had generational wealth. Had nothing left to prove. Zero need to come out of retirement after a career filled with nothing but success.

Huberdeau is freshly off a contract that now guarantees generational wealth, yet he's proven nothing. Won nothing. Talked the talk all summer, but couldn't walk the walk when it came time to do it. And now has an agent cradling him like a parent.

The least Sutter can expect from Huberdeau is to be a professional, play the Sutter way like a professional making $10.5M playing a children's game, and not have his agent whine on social media for him.

Also, I'm quite well aware of Walsh's history, thank you

Well your post makes it seem like you are Brian Sutter defending his brother after he was called out for his crappy tactics treatment of players and overall difficult time adjusting to a young mans league which places a premium on offence when he sits whines about goals against every day.

Huberdeau has adjusted to his grind and grit half wall shot pass it to point shot volume garbage style. He has some of the best metrics on the team on the defensive side. He is also making 5.9 million this season.

Huberdeau was over a ppg before Darryl sutter got his gritty hands on him.

Everyone can see the miserable style look at Chris Tanev tonight the guy looks defeated playing for this coach.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I think Sutter is also generally not very coherent

I doubt players hear him well out on the ice lol. Maybe it's just literally communication

[PepsiFree]

Why do we have to take sides? How does that have any effect on anything?

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Well your post makes it seem like you are Brian Sutter defending his brother after he was called out for his crappy tactics treatment of players and overall difficult time adjusting to a young mans league which places a premium on offence when he sits whines about goals against every day.

Huberdeau has adjusted to his grind and grit half wall shot pass it to point shot volume garbage style. He has some of the best metrics on the team on the defensive side. He is also making 5.9 million this season.

Huberdeau was over a ppg before Darryl sutter got his gritty hands on him.

Everyone can see the miserable style look at Chris Tanev tonight the guy looks defeated playing for this coach.

Those poor guys Gaudreau & Tkachuk were also over a PPG before Darryl Sutter got his gritty hands on them. Oh wait. That can't be right..

[Dion]

You can be sure that Eric Francis is lapping this up and ponding the keys on his computer to speculate what he feels is going on. Next PG presser should be interesting when Francis presses Sutter to give us some clarity on the issue,

[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I think Sutter is also generally not very coherent

I doubt players hear him well out on the ice lol. Maybe it's just literally communication

And yet it makes no sense. These guys love mumble rap

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[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

“Nightmare fuel” as Boomer put it the other day.

The start of this 9 year relation is nightmare fuel. The fact that the Flames committed to a team built on 30+ year old highly paid UFAs to try and win “now” and are having this type of first season?

Nightmare fuel.

Franchise wrecking fuel.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Those poor guys Gaudreau & Tkachuk were also over a PPG before Darryl Sutter got his gritty hands on them. Oh wait. That can't be right..

Why did they leave?

You can't keep defending him but this is Sutters mess. He is the unprofessional one not Huberdeau. Don't even know how anyone can say hes been unprofessional.

Maybe you will enjoy it when Sutter gets Treliving ousted and takes over as gm and trades away Coronato for Mike Richards.

[zamler]

Tkachuk is a +16 and 4th in league scoring Gaudreau 42nd and -16.

I have no explanation.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Why do we have to take sides? How does that have any effect on anything?

Frankly I don't understand which sides are even at play with a tweet by Allan Walsh.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Those poor guys Gaudreau & Tkachuk were also over a PPG before Darryl Sutter got his gritty hands on them. Oh wait. That can't be right..

And what did those two do the first chance they had to get away from Sutter?

If they thought Sutter was a great coach do you think they were running away to Columbus and asking for a trade to Florida. Leaving the team that drafted them and a 1st place team offering more money.

And then in Tkachuk's case saying his new coach was the best coach he ever played for. Sometimes it's forgotten but there were rumors Tkachuk asked for a trade in 20-21 season when Sutter had demoted him at times and his ice time dropped. Looking back now maybe that was true.

To me those guys had great seasons because they were two elite players that wanted to get paid as free agents - not because something Sutter did suddenly unlocked their potential.

I would love to ask Gaudreau and Tkachuk with truth serum two questions: 1) Did you guys play Sutter's system as asked or did you guys kind of do your own thing in 21-22? 2) What was the real reason you both decided to leave Calgary?

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Why did they leave?

You can't keep defending him but this is Sutters mess. He is the unprofessional one not Huberdeau. Don't even know how anyone can say hes been unprofessional.

Maybe you will enjoy it when Sutter gets Treliving ousted and takes over as gm and trades away Coronato for Mike Richards.

I've made my differing opinions on Sutter-as-Head-Coach vs Sutter-as-GM very clear

Just not putting Huberdeau's & Markstrom's inability to perform at a quality 25% of what they're paid on Sutter.

[nieuwy-89]

It has been a nightmare for this franchise since we beat Dallas. Hard to believe but we may have been better off losing game 7 OT. Maybe Markstom’s confidence wouldn’t be shot, maybe one of Gaudreau or Tkachuk stay.

Now we are back to being the laughing-stock with nothing but drama and turmoil.

I hope this can be the low point of the season, maybe a rallying cry for change. But I’ve been saying it all season, something is off about this group of players and we have no identity.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

“Nightmare fuel” as Boomer put it the other day.

The start of this 9 year relation is nightmare fuel. The fact that the Flames committed to a team built on 30+ year old highly paid UFAs to try and win “now” and are having this type of first season?

Nightmare fuel.

We've out-San Jose'd San Jose!

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

And yet it makes no sense. These guys love mumble rap

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I chuckled at this.

Also your join date and a picture of Cal from Undergrads trips me out. I’ve got to ask…are you young and also like Undergrads? Has Undergrads found a following with the youngins?

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Those poor guys Gaudreau & Tkachuk were also over a PPG before Darryl Sutter got his gritty hands on them. Oh wait. That can't be right..

Gaudreau and Tkachuk were 100% just playing for their next contracts. Both of them probably would have put up similar numbers with any other coach last year.

Tkachuk got out of here as soon as he could and has been somewhat open about what he thought of Sutter. Gaudreau legitimately loved it here but having to play for Sutter contributed at least a little in his decision to leave. He chose Columbus ffs.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by nieuwy-89

I hope this can be the low point of the season, maybe a rallying cry for change. But I’ve been saying it all season, something is off about this group of players and we have no identity.

I honestly think the coach wants himself to be the identity of the team...not naming a captain has been part of that.

But I think we might have a team resisting taking on that identity at this point.

And that's why we have no identity.

[Vinny01]

It feels like this fanbase went from 2004 Sutter love to 2010 Sutter hate in less than a calendar year.

Do we need a Geoff Ward music practice to spice things up for the boys?

This team’s star players are sucking and that is why they are outside of the playoffs. Huberdeau and Markstrom suck and those 2 have cost the team what should be a good season.

Walsh doing this public calling out and airing of the dirty laundry is not helping anything. This isn’t being good at your job this is giving the media something to feast on and talk about leasing up to a high profile Saturday night game. Pagnotta has basically given up his source to what is going on in Calgary tonight quoting the Walsh tweet

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If they thought Sutter was a great coach do you think they were running away to Columbus and asking for a trade to Florida.

Who knows with Tkachuk but I don't think it would have mattered who was the coach with Gaudreau.

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

And what did those two do the first chance they had to get away from Sutter?

If they thought Sutter was a great coach do you think they were running away to Columbus and asking for a trade to Florida. Leaving the team that drafted them and a 1st place team offering more money.

And then in Tkachuk's case saying his new coach was the best coach he ever played for. Sometimes it's forgotten but there were rumors Tkachuk asked for a trade in 20-21 season when Sutter had demoted him at times and his ice time dropped. Looking back now maybe that was true.

To me those guys had great seasons because they were two elite players that wanted to get paid as free agents - not because something Sutter did suddenly unlocked their potential.

Johnny mentioned on several occasions that he wanted to be closer to home and his family situation dictated his move (albeit Columbus being an odd choice). He personally excelled under Sutter and had nothing but positive things to say about him and how he helped him elevate his game. Even Guy Gaudreau mentioned how Johnny needed a hard coach to get the best out of him.

Tkachuk probably wanted out after Johnny left. His relationship might not have been the best with the coach but their decisions to leave (especially Johnny) probably had very little to do with Darryl.