[Trade] Horvat (25% retained) to NYI for Beauvillier, Raty, and protected 2023 1st

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by butterfly

A 'mid-round first' like it's nothing. That's Backlund, Coronato, Pelletier, Larkin, Chychrun, Alex Tuch, Zadorov, Pulock, etc. etc.

And this draft is supposed to be deep. You've got a heck of a chance to pick up a good player for years, in exchange for 30 games of Bo Horvat. And they can still do whatever they want with the two players they got.

It’s also a list 10,000 times longer than that full of nobodies.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

It’s also a list 10,000 times longer than that full of nobodies.

You have 80,000 names to name, so I'd suggest you get started.

[powderjunkie]

NYI is in now or never mode, might as well push all-in.

Can always cut bait for 90 cents on the dollar if he won't re-sign and the team isn't trending better.

Looks like they've been a bit streaky, but mostly just had a crappy January. 7-9-5 with Pelech out of the lineup vs. 18-13-0 with him in, and he's back now.


It looks pretty clearly like 6 teams fighting for the 2 wildcard spots, but it really boils down to WAS or PIT falling for NYI to make it.

[dammage79]

Kind of curious now if Horvats trade cues the total purge of the Nucks core.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Man, how did Miller become so cancerous so quickly

or was this happening for a while under the radar

his current contract looked pretty appealing last summer

He's a #### when the team is losing. He's fine when they're winning.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

He just wasn't a 99 point center. He's more like a 75 point winger. And that's still good, and still worth 8 million bucks, if your team is a contender. But it makes no sense to pay that guy 8 million bucks into his 30s if your team stinks and your issue is defence. Put that guy on the Hurricanes, Stars or Kraken and he's well worth his money. They'll find a taker for him eventually.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So again, middling numbers. I guess Pelletier is going to be a superstar by that measure. We will see but I see Raty as a 3rd line C.

Pelletier was in his draft+3 for his first AHL season.

Ratu is in his draft+2.

So he's in the AHL a bit earlier which does make a difference.

Overall he's in the same range as his peers and looked fine in his NHL games. Way too early to really determine one way or another yet.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Just realized Horvat was a Western Conference All Star, who is now an eastern team player.

He’s still representing the Canucks at all star game. Weird.

[activeStick]

And now, Demko wants out of Vancouver too. With nothing left by the summer, you do wonder if Pettersson stays around after his agent assured Canucks fans he loves the city and wants to stay. Kuzmenko is going to be the only guy left in town with Garland, Miller, Boeser, OEL and Beauvillier.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by butterfly

A 'mid-round first' like it's nothing. That's Backlund, Coronato, Pelletier, Larkin, Chychrun, Alex Tuch, Zadorov, Pulock, etc. etc.

And this draft is supposed to be deep. You've got a heck of a chance to pick up a good player for years, in exchange for 30 games of Bo Horvat. And they can still do whatever they want with the two players they got.

Lol can just as easily name 10 busts

[butterfly]

I was laughing when they traded the Dylan Guenther pick to Arizona for Ekman-Larsson. Now they could very realistically have two top 13 picks in one of the strongest drafts in our lives.

I don't like this at all.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Again, he is 19 playing in the AHL.

At that age, Pelletier was still in junior.

He is 20

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

NYI is in now or never mode, might as well push all-in.

Can always cut bait for 90 cents on the dollar if he won't re-sign and the team isn't trending better.

Looks like they've been a bit streaky, but mostly just had a crappy January. 7-9-5 with Pelech out of the lineup vs. 18-13-0 with him in, and he's back now.


It looks pretty clearly like 6 teams fighting for the 2 wildcard spots, but it really boils down to WAS or PIT falling for NYI to make it.

And Buffalo that has 3 games in hand on them

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by butterfly

I was laughing when they traded the Dylan Guenther pick to Arizona for Ekman-Larsson. Now they could very realistically have two top 13 picks in one of the strongest drafts in our lives.

I don't like this at all.

Pretty unlikely

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Pretty unlikely

You think New York is going to lose ground after this trade? Or barely miss the playoffs, and Vancouver gets that pick?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Kuzmenko is going to be the only guy left in town with Garland, Miller, Boeser, OEL and Beauvillier.

What makes you think Kuzmenko isn't getting traded too?

(but actually all of those guys except OEL could get traded)

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by butterfly

You have 80,000 names to name, so I'd suggest you get started.

It’s post dated to the 9923/9924 draft hosted in Hartford.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by butterfly

You think New York is going to lose ground after this trade? Or barely miss the playoffs, and Vancouver gets that pick?

Wat? The only way Vancouver ends up with 2 top 13 picks this draft is if the Islanders pick end up 13th

Very unlikely

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by butterfly

You think New York is going to lose ground after this trade? Or barely miss the playoffs, and Vancouver gets that pick?

Wat? The only way Vancouver ends up with 2 top 13 picks this draft is if the Islanders pick ends up 13th

Very unlikely

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Wat? The only way Vancouver ends up with 2 top 13 picks this draft is if the Islanders pick ends up 13th

Very unlikely

Which means they're the 4th best team to miss the playoffs. Is that very unlikely?

Even if they're 3rd, 2nd, or the best team to miss the playoffs, it doesn't change the calculation at all.