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Old 10-17-2022, 04:49 PM   #681
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10AM local is a bit early for these fellas to be out tracking their enemies! That's some commitment.
I wonder what the gang member version of the "time to make the donuts" guy looks like.
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Old 10-18-2022, 09:48 AM   #682
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Ken Sim and ABC with a resounding victory in the Vancouver municipal elections yesterday. Have to think that public fatigue with the crime/disorder situation was a major factor.
Stewart got essentially the same amount of votes as in 2018. He beat Sim by less than 1,000 votes last time. The big difference this year is Shauna Sylvester didn't run. I voted for her last time and I would have voted for her again this year had she run. Because she didn't run, I voted for Sim.

In 2018 Sim and Sylvester combined for 84,205 votes. This year Sim received 85,732. It looks like essentially all of her votes from 2018 went to Sim in 2022. Stewart's stayed the same.
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Stewart got essentially the same amount of votes as in 2018. He beat Sim by less than 1,000 votes last time. The big difference this year is Shauna Sylvester didn't run. I voted for her last time and I would have voted for her again this year had she run. Because she didn't run, I voted for Sim.

In 2018 Sim and Sylvester combined for 84,205 votes. This year Sim received 85,732. It looks like essentially all of her votes from 2018 went to Sim in 2022. Stewart's stayed the same.
Vancouvers center to left wing vote is always split between 3 or more parties, COPE, whatever Vision has become, the Greens and this year the Foward bunch it's a miracle they ever get elected frankly
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https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/...-after-release

Release and catch: Repeat offender arrested two hours after getting out of jail

They followed him downtown, where he walked into a retail store and allegedly stole $330 worth of leggings. He was arrested.

At the time, Addison notes, he “had been out of custody for two hours, 18 minutes.”

Majidpour has a lengthy criminal record, and is facing charges for an alleged attack on a woman late last month that involved racial slurs.
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Old 10-18-2022, 02:43 PM   #685
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1582461024166608896

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Old 10-18-2022, 02:51 PM   #686
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Man, those last two posts... ugh.
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Old 10-18-2022, 03:34 PM   #687
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It's been a wild 24 hours in Burnaby in particular with the cop getting stabbed to death at a homeless encampment in Burnaby today and then yesterday, two deceased people were found inside a car outside of a highschool.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9206062/m...y-high-school/
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Old 10-18-2022, 04:28 PM   #688
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Sad news about the RCMP officer.

It seems like this homeless crisis and drugs/ODs are out of control and something needs to be done. Is the provincial government out there actually doing anything. It almost seems like it’s become a federal issue and Trudeau is MIA as usual, same with Singh, isn’t Burnaby his or close to his riding?
You can talk about affordable housing all you want but things are clearly not working.

Maybe it’s time for some mandatory jail sentences for loitering, possession or being under the influence, like 90 days. Sober some of these people up to start with and get them off drugs.
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Sad news about the RCMP officer.

It seems like this homeless crisis and drugs/ODs are out of control and something needs to be done. Is the provincial government out there actually doing anything. It almost seems like it’s become a federal issue and Trudeau is MIA as usual, same with Singh, isn’t Burnaby his or close to his riding?
You can talk about affordable housing all you want but things are clearly not working.

Maybe it’s time for some mandatory jail sentences for loitering, possession or being under the influence, like 90 days. Sober some of these people up to start with and get them off drugs.
Jail sentences for loitering??
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Time to teach those teenage kids once and for all!
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That’s the thing, loitering is what school kids do at 7/11 or wherever, what I mean is tents on public streets and spaces. You have to establish standards as to what’s allowed and what isn’t.

An officer lost their life and the perpetrator was shot and wounded by police, over what, right?

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Jail sentences for loitering??
Pretty close to vagrancy, in a place pretty close to Hope BC, where they filmed that documentary called Rambo.
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For anyone interested, the BC public service union ratified their agreement with the province. It was really split though (53% in favour and only a 71% turnout).

Reading on the Reddit thread about it, it sounds like a lot of people who voted in favour only did so because a strike longer than a month would mean not being able to pay rent or food insecurity.
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Sad news about the RCMP officer.

It seems like this homeless crisis and drugs/ODs are out of control and something needs to be done. Is the provincial government out there actually doing anything. It almost seems like it’s become a federal issue and Trudeau is MIA as usual, same with Singh, isn’t Burnaby his or close to his riding?
You can talk about affordable housing all you want but things are clearly not working.

Maybe it’s time for some mandatory jail sentences for loitering, possession or being under the influence, like 90 days. Sober some of these people up to start with and get them off drugs.
maybe it's time for effective adequate mental health and addictions treatment?
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maybe it's time for effective adequate mental health and addictions treatment?
The tweet was deleted but apparently the officer was part of their mental health team.

https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/c...stabbed_while/
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For anyone interested, the BC public service union ratified their agreement with the province. It was really split though (53% in favour and only a 71% turnout).

Reading on the Reddit thread about it, it sounds like a lot of people who voted in favour only did so because a strike longer than a month would mean not being able to pay rent or food insecurity.
Extra hard to go on strike while in the midst of dramatic rent and food inflation. Weren't they striking for pay increases to match inflation?
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It's been a wild 24 hours in Burnaby in particular with the cop getting stabbed to death at a homeless encampment in Burnaby today and then yesterday, two deceased people were found inside a car outside of a highschool.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9206062/m...y-high-school/

Drive past that school every day on my we at to work. Weird time and spot. I'm assuming OD but I haven't read anything more than the headline.
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Drive past that school every day on my we at to work. Weird time and spot. I'm assuming OD but I haven't read anything more than the headline.
Wound't be OD's, there's many of those daily. This had the front window tarped off, and Homicide and Forensics called in and deep into investigation.

Homicide gets called out to many non criminal deaths but it's more just to quickly determine that it's actually OD/suicide so someone can't cover up a murder at home with only paramedics and a body pick up involved. If the media is writing that Homicide and forensics are involved that means it's way past that and likely a double homicide.
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6.

6 ODs daily. It’s actually a provincial emergency and needs to be treated and such.

Just do the Portugal model (this means kind of what afc said plus give law enforcement some power back). Just at least try it for a couple years and see what works. It is so frustrating that another place literally solved this problem and Canadians can’t get out of their own way yet 6 people die daily on the streets. Plus cops, apparently.
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6 ODs daily. It’s actually a provincial emergency and needs to be treated and such.

Just do the Portugal model (this means kind of what afc said plus give law enforcement some power back). Just at least try it for a couple years and see what works. It is so frustrating that another place literally solved this problem and Canadians can’t get out of their own way yet 6 people die daily on the streets. Plus cops, apparently.
Yep that needs to be a consideration for sure.

In additional to that I would like to see the following done:

1) Create a 'Psychiatric Urgent Care' facility. Much like a hospital in that it is open 24/7, staffed with professionals with a variety of skill sets, but completely different in its function and purpose. A Psychiatric Urgent Care facility is a completely separate building staffed with mental health professionals that have experiences in helping and treating those with addiction issues, domestic abuse victims, people suffering from ptsd, depression, mental disorders like schizophrenia, etc. While this of course would not get everyone off the street it would at the very least capture a segment of the population not getting the mental health supports they need and perhaps reduce the burden being placed on other streams of front line emergency response and hospitals where those who are trained in treating medical problems are being asked to treat patients with severe mental health issues.

2) Include counseling with registered clinical counsellor as part of our Canadian health care services.

3) Vastly reduce the amount of opioids being prescribed by health professionals for post op patients / patients experiencing some pain.
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