09-14-2022, 12:06 PM
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#121
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Originally Posted by Steve Macfarlane
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I hear you, and I am no fan.
But again, it's a PTO - it's a free option. If this is in fact the case:
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Adding Virtanen might be like mixing in another blood type
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you simply walk away
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09-14-2022, 12:08 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
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Based on the gap in the lineup, give the guy a shot. As Enoch suggested, he's older and has been through a lot that just might settle him down.
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09-14-2022, 12:16 PM
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#123
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Virtanen isn't smart enough to be the type of player he thinks he is and isn't willing to play physically and with the grit required to be the type of player he needs to be.
He doesn't want to lay big hits or engage physically because he's afraid to get hit. He got dummied as a rookie and predominantly became a shrinking violet perimeter player.
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09-14-2022, 12:16 PM
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#124
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Holland
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I mean if he is how I hear then he’s a great fit for the Oilers franchise.
If he’s changed and has become a more respectable person and decent hockey player then he’s a good fit for the Flames.
Only time will reveal his character.
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09-14-2022, 12:20 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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I wouldn't put it past Staples to float out the Flames name simply to protect their fanbase from insults.
If the Flames were in on him it takes away our moral high-ground. I'm going with this theory until proven wrong because Staples is a weasel and would do something like that.
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09-14-2022, 12:32 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
He's kind of like a Burrows (or wishes he was), sneaking the dirty crap in when no one is looking.
Again, as for lazy, while he has been in the past, he has to be aware that this is his last chance. And he is 26 now, surely there has been some emotional maturity along the way.
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Maybe. I've met a few 50 year olds that haven't matured.
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09-14-2022, 12:53 PM
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#127
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Meh,
Whether or not Virtanen has matured, no idea. But for some to suggest this is a sign of moral failing - I mean, this is a franchise that employed Todd Bertuzzi and Bryan Marchment, among others.
At the end of the day, fans of any franchise will forgive just about anything if you win. Calgary is no different than any other franchise.
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09-14-2022, 01:05 PM
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#128
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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I trust that Sutter wouldn't allow him to be brought into the fold if he has serious character issues, so I'm really not concerned about this whatsoever.
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09-14-2022, 01:06 PM
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#129
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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09-14-2022, 01:07 PM
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#130
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All I can get
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Even factoring in such things as culture shock, Virtanen didn't find his game in the KHL.
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09-14-2022, 01:34 PM
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#131
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Ped
Meh,
Whether or not Virtanen has matured, no idea. But for some to suggest this is a sign of moral failing - I mean, this is a franchise that employed Todd Bertuzzi and Bryan Marchment, among others.
At the end of the day, fans of any franchise will forgive just about anything if you win. Calgary is no different than any other franchise.
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On ice incidents vs off ice
Major difference between kneeing a guy in a hockey game and sexual assault
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09-14-2022, 01:40 PM
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#132
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N-E-B
I wouldn't put it past Staples to float out the Flames name simply to protect their fanbase from insults.
If the Flames were in on him it takes away our moral high-ground. I'm going with this theory until proven wrong because Staples is a weasel and would do something like that.
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This is probably it and Trelving should kick his both his and Stauffer's ass for starting the "rumour". Has anyone else outside of the Oilers market even independently mentioned that the Flames were interested.
I smell a rat.
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09-14-2022, 01:46 PM
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#133
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N-E-B
I wouldn't put it past Staples to float out the Flames name simply to protect their fanbase from insults.
If the Flames were in on him it takes away our moral high-ground. I'm going with this theory until proven wrong because Staples is a weasel and would do something like that.
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It makes sense to randomly attach Virtanen to Calgary since he has a history with the city.
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09-14-2022, 02:00 PM
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#134
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
Meh,
Whether or not Virtanen has matured, no idea. But for some to suggest this is a sign of moral failing - I mean, this is a franchise that employed Todd Bertuzzi and Bryan Marchment, among others.
At the end of the day, fans of any franchise will forgive just about anything if you win. Calgary is no different than any other franchise.
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As was said, off ice versus on ice, and also under different management regimes (acknowledging Sutter was GM). And the Flames didn't exactly benefit from those two signings.
And for the record I was against the Marchment signing anyway. To me he was always deliberately dirty and dangerous versus Bertuzzi who just lost it and made a stupid play.
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09-14-2022, 02:02 PM
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#135
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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What latest 32 Thoughts is Virtanen mentioned? Wasn't the last podcast I don't think. Hasn't been a blog in a bit either or has there?
Seriously, this thread was the first time I've seen his name mentioned in some time.
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09-14-2022, 02:20 PM
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#136
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Virtanen is fast, and has a shot. But he's has the hockey IQ of a coffee mug, and the defensive awareness of a blind person at a land mine convention.
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I think my coffee mug could play.
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09-14-2022, 02:23 PM
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#137
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N-E-B
I wouldn't put it past Staples to float out the Flames name simply to protect their fanbase from insults.
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It was Stauffer. It's something he frequently does. Staples never would because he doesn't know anything, has no sources, and everyone is aware of this.
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09-14-2022, 02:25 PM
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#138
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Franchise Player
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My coffee mug beat Jake Virtanen in a game of Trivial Pursuit. Quite easily too.
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09-14-2022, 02:26 PM
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#139
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
My coffee mug beat Jake Virtanen in a game of Trivial Pursuit. Quite easily too.
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Pphhhhtttt. My coffee mug can beat your coffee mug.
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09-14-2022, 02:27 PM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
It was Stauffer. It's something he frequently does. Staples never would because he doesn't know anything, has no sources, and everyone is aware of this.
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My apologies. It's hard to keep track of what buffoon said what idiotic thing on any given day up there.
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