[Signing] Flames sign Kadri (7 years, $7m AAV)

[driveway]

Originally Posted by red sky

What rate of production would you be satisfied with?

For 7 million? 60 points.

prediction: Kadri never tops 50 points playing on the Flames and takes key penalties in the playoffs that lose games for us over the next 2 years, then takes a massive dive in ability and is producing 12g and 18a a year, stumbling around on our third line blocking young players from getting ice-time and advancing into the organization.

[djsFlames]

7 is on the low end for the biggest FA fish on the market coming off a productive cup run. Let's be honest.

Term isn't ideal but the cap hit is frankly comfortable given how free agents like these typically get paid.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by driveway

For 7 million? 60 points.

prediction: Kadri never tops 50 points playing on the Flames and takes key penalties in the playoffs that lose games for us over the next 2 years, then takes a massive dive in ability and is producing 12g and 18a a year, stumbling around on our third line blocking young players from getting ice-time and advancing into the organization.

Aren't you a ray of sunshine. Trying to will this into existence?

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kadri played last season at a 100 point pace and dominated the playoffs...there are some really odd harsh takes about this player. Even without the points he is an elite shutdown center like Backlund. Are people racist? Like I honestly don't get it...Flames are a way better team for these next few years they are going for it.

Maybe past suspensions at dumb times, but he seems to have matured.

Maybe the worry that he's cashed in and won his Cup and won't care (don't see that flying under Sutter so why would he sign here if that's our culture)

Probably his age and length of the contract, but the max term is what you need to get the top guys. Plus, brings down the AAV which is only a good thing in still a flat cap world.

The worst part of this signing for me is I can't decide whether I go with a Huberdeau or Kadri jersey. Though I had both Chucky and Johnny, so maybe I go with both!

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

If the Oilers plan to keep McDavid, they’ll be paying him $15 mil plus when he is in his mid-late 30s. Draisaitl will be at least $12 million I expect.

You are correct, they will have those type of deals but they won’t be with the Oilers

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Aren't you a ray of sunshine. Trying to will this into existence?

Actually trying to uno-reverse double jinx myself so it works out.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kadri played last season at a 100 point pace and dominated the playoffs...there are some really odd harsh takes about this player. Even without the points he is an elite shutdown center like Backlund. Are people racist? Like I honestly don't get it...Flames are a way better team for these next few years they are going for it.

I don't get the polarizing takes either.

I hope the extra resistance isn't a heritage thing. Maybe a personality thing. I can see some people thinking because of how he presents himself that he would take his paycheque, enjoy a championship under his belt and phone it in now.

Except it makes no sense because this guy is too proud and this is a Darryl Sutter team where that isn't tolerated.

[Macman]

You also have to consider the team Kadri is joining, a lot of complimentary players to put it mildly plus possibly the best coach in the game today, this will be a team to watch for sure.

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

I don't get the polarizing takes either.

I hope the extra resistance isn't a heritage thing. Maybe a personality thing. I can see some people thinking because of how he presents himself that he would take his paycheque, enjoy a championship under his belt and phone it in now.

Except it makes no sense because this guy is too proud and this is a Darryl Sutter team where that isn't tolerated.

Get out of my head!

[Monahammer]

So are we resolved on huberdeau-lindholm, mangiapane-kadri as pairings? Or might we see huberdeau-kadri play together?

[wired]

Flames are a better team than last season. Lets hope Tre is done now.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by driveway

I hate this signing with the burning passion of a thousand firey suns.

This deal is going to be an albatross from the first moment Kadri steps out onto the ice. He's never going to produce at a rate that will pay this off, what a god-awful, idiot move. I hate this. I hate it.

Forwards who made $7 million AAV last season averaged 0.8 ppg or 65 points over 82 games. The range of point production was between 0.46 and 1.16 (Kadri had 1.23 ppg, but only made $4.5 million AAV). His point total from last season could drop off by 30% next season and $7 million would still be fair market value, and that doesn't even take into consideration the other aspects Kadri brings to the team.

So if Kadri gets at least 65 points next season, he would be pretty much in the average range for players making that amount. His point totals may go down over the course of the contract, but the value of what $7 million gets you probably goes down as the cap goes up as well.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by wired

Flames are a better team than last season. Lets hope Tre is done now.

I don’t want Tre done, I am on the Hanifin for scoring top 6 winger train.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

So are we resolved on huberdeau-lindholm, mangiapane-kadri as pairings? Or might we see huberdeau-kadri play together?

I like toying with the idea of Huby-Kadri.

It's an out of box thought that might work well and maybe Lindy could even drive his own line as the 1B/2A. It's a different look, but we should consider any combination to see what gains traction.

They'd need a shooter with them though.

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by driveway

For 7 million? 60 points.

prediction: Kadri never tops 50 points playing on the Flames and takes key penalties in the playoffs that lose games for us over the next 2 years, then takes a massive dive in ability and is producing 12g and 18a a year, stumbling around on our third line blocking young players from getting ice-time and advancing into the organization.

His average point total since entering the NHL, adjusting for 82 games each season, is 59. The last 5 years is 62.

Sounds like he's paid about right then.

[Sandman]

Guys like Pavelski and Stastny are playing into their late 30's, why can't Kadri?

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

Originally Posted by driveway

For 7 million? 60 points.

prediction: Kadri never tops 50 points playing on the Flames and takes key penalties in the playoffs that lose games for us over the next 2 years, then takes a massive dive in ability and is producing 12g and 18a a year, stumbling around on our third line blocking young players from getting ice-time and advancing into the organization.

Your negativity sure manifests itself in strange and very specific ways lol

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

I like toying with the idea of Huby-Kadri.

It's an out of box thought that might work well and maybe Lindy could even drive his own line as the 1B/2A. It's a different look, but we should consider any combination to see what gains traction.

They'd need a shooter with them though.

I think it would be:

Huby-kadri-toffoli
Mangi-lindy-dube

If we went that route.

[dino7c]

Kadri isn't an offense only player so points per $$$ isn't the way to determine value here IMO

[FiveSeven]

Who did Kadri spend his time playing with last season? Also for curiosity's sake, what is the website to be able to look at this stat?