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Old 07-12-2022, 02:26 PM   #8041
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That's not really serious if they are only doing $63mil total.

$25 mil less than a 8X $11.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:26 PM   #8042
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Remind me what time does the 8th year option disappear?
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:27 PM   #8043
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That's not really serious if they are only doing $63mil total.
Hard to believe 9 gets it done. That seems incredibly low.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:27 PM   #8044
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That offer is not even going to get the NYI a meeting with Johnny’s camp on the first day of free agency lol
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:27 PM   #8045
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:27 PM   #8046
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Barkov had two PPG seasons and one season where he missed by one point before he signed his offer. Johnny has had 3 PPG seasons and one where he missed by a point. Barkov’s best season was 1.17 PPG before he signed, Johnny’s was 1.4 PPG (Barkov’s best season at a 84% clip of Johnny’s best season). So 10 would likely still be low based on PPG. It is almost impossible to find a comparable that makes 9.5 seem like a serious offer, based on Gaudreau’s year he had.
Barlow is an elite two way centre as I said before. They get paid more
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:28 PM   #8047
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Probably a $25M gap between what the Isles would offer and what the Flames would. Gaudreau won't be an Islander. No one loves their family that much.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:28 PM   #8048
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That's not really serious if they are only doing $63mil total.

$25 mil less than a 8X $11.

Yeah. I think the Flames will get this done at $86mil-$88mil
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:29 PM   #8049
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I would guess he tests the market and the signs, kind of like Landeskog.
Landeskog signed right before the deadline. To the extent he tested it was under the table.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:29 PM   #8050
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Disagree. No -player "should" take a discount. Gaudreau is doing exactly as he should be, looking out for himself.
It's a business, and a player needs to look after themselves first. You can't trust a pro sports team to have any sort of loyalty or do the right thing with a discount on a contract.

If a player does give a discount, there is no guarantee that savings would improve the club. They might just as easily waste it on a Neal.
No, there's no requirement to take a discount, especially when he was open to extension talks last summer and things did not progress.

The biggest disservice would be holding the team hostage until the last minute to do whatever he's planning on doing, which seems quite unlikely.....Maybe Treliving is just being obtuse and has already been told as much, but I find it hard to believe the team wouldn't have gone all in ahead of this point if they were prepared to do so anyway.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:29 PM   #8051
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$9 million per on a 7 year deal?

lol @ the Isles if that reported future offer is legit
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:30 PM   #8052
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Barlow is an elite two way centre as I said before. They get paid more
I think you are confused. "Barlow" is a street in Calgary, and not a very nice one at that.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:31 PM   #8053
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$9 million per on a 7 year deal?

lol @ the Isles if that reported future offer is legit
Isles actually did Calgary a favour there.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:31 PM   #8054
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That offer is not even going to get the NYI a meeting with Johnny’s camp on the first day of free agency lol
No way Johnny signs for anything less than 10 now. He's a top five player in the league and on an open market will demand more than 10.5 million.
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I think you are confused. "Barlow" is a street in Calgary, and not a very nice one at that.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:34 PM   #8056
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Well if the Gaudreau camp has put up a counter offer just sign the damn thing! Done! Locked in!
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:34 PM   #8057
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I wouldn't believe anything resembling a leak out of NYI.
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Scorp and I were messaging about this yesterday but I honestly don't really see a fit outside of New Jersey.

NYI - that offer isn't serious at $9M x 7

NJ - I think they could go as high as $11M but I don't see them going above $11M

Flyers - I think they would maybe go to $9.5 / $10M but not sure they could afford more than that.

Really NJ is the only team that can offer money and location.

Flyers he might be willing to take less if that is truly where his heart is...but $10-$16M is a lot of money to leave on the table.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:37 PM   #8059
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I wouldn't believe anything resembling a leak out of NYI.
Lou don't leak.
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:37 PM   #8060
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I wouldn't believe anything resembling a leak out of NYI.
Au contraire, my friend

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