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				What’s different is that I presented facts instead of opinions? Flames without Johnny will go nowhere and have to rebuild. I hope he re-signs but man it would be sad for the Flames to try and “compete” without him. Also yes, being top 3-4 in the NHL is elite, results speak for themselves regardless of opinions. 
			
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			07-11-2022, 09:49 PM
			
			
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				Last I checked the Oilers finished top 4, losing to the eventual cup winner… 
			
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Imagine getting your teeth caved in by the avs and then presenting that info as if it was a close series. Japan lost in WW2 as well, let's just not mention the nukes.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-11-2022, 09:52 PM
			
			
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				Imagine getting your teeth caved in by the avs and then presenting that info as if it was a close series. Japan lost in WW2 as well, let's just not mention the nukes. 
			
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To be fair the Oilers also had a 'really close sweep' last year too.  
Amazing it keeps on happening to that team. Probably because they are so good. Only a team that good could get swept that closely.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Last I checked the Oilers finished top 4, losing to the eventual cup winner… 
			
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Since 2010, only ONE team in the NHL has an aggregate worse winning percentage than the Oilers.
 
Buffalo Sabres.
 
No no....you’re doing well.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			And the troll has succeeded. I can’t wait until Johnny re-signs.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-11-2022, 09:58 PM
			
			
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				They weren't a top 4 team guy 
 
What was the record over the 82 game sample size? They got an easy first round and almost blew it...Healthy Doughty and they are one and done again.  Calgary had their best defender injured and their goalie fell off a cliff (not to mention an assist from the league in game 5) 
 
Got swept by the Avs whom the Blues beat twice, Panthers, Leafs, ect. Would have beat the Oilers 
			
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Are you talking about the Doughty who magically had to go on LTIR as soon it was clear they would be playing the Oilers?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			If Johnny decides to walk because of family reasons then there is nothing the Flames could have done to change his mind. If some of the rumours are true that they don’t want to go much higher than the 9.5 million offer that was made and that causes him to walk I will be extremely angry. A guy like Johnny deserves to be paid and Superstar players like this are extremely hard to find. 
 
I remember once when Burke didn’t make a trade because he was getting low ball offers from other teams and didn’t want to set a precedent that Calgary was the location other teams would go to rip GM’s off. In principle I get it, but this is not the time to be trying to make a point.  
 
Pay the man already and be wise in other areas of your roster (I.e. not overpaying  for 3rd and 4th line players). Obviously this is just speculation and we don’t know what’s happening between closed doors but I will be very disappointed and angry with the team if they are sticking to their guns on the 9.5 million number.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-11-2022, 10:05 PM
			
			
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				We have about 29 more hours to be glass half full for the Flames. At that point, we can only sign Johnny for 7 years and lose our 8 year advantage. 
			
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What? 
I didn't know that! I can't believe I never read that anywhere in this thread, or heard it anywhere else over the last year or so. 
My glass is definitely half empty now.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-11-2022, 10:07 PM
			
			
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			Think tomorrow is going to be a stressful day. I wonder how many times I will hit refresh ? Get him signed!!! Sorry but there are no other superstars in the nhl that would even contemplate signing with the flames as a ufa. Flames have a rare chance to be able to snag one. Let’s do this!!!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-11-2022, 10:10 PM
			
			
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				If you guys are going to engage the troll you have to AT LEAST have an equal amount of fun (and ideally entertain the rest of us). If you’re just trying to outsmart them or prove them wrong you’ll lose because they don’t care how stupid they sound, just that it gets a reaction when they say it. 
			
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Meh, I agree with part of what he said (we should rebuild if we lose Gaudreau and Tkachuk), just said it wouldn't be that easy due to the team's (and really the league's) impatience to rebuilds.
 
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			That is one rule I'd like to see the NHL change...the current team should be able to offer the 8th year even once free agency starts.  
 
It's good for the current team as they still have the final advantage, but also good for the player as it truly lets them see what is on the market.  
 
It made sense when there was the courting period to have it not extend into free agency but with the courting period gone you're asking the player to make a choice and actually hurts the current team potentially.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Reminds me of that great CollegeHumor skit where they try to argue with the Internet bridge troll.  
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			07-11-2022, 10:16 PM
			
			
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				And the troll has succeeded. I can’t wait until Johnny re-signs. 
			
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I actually found it to be a pleasant little distraction from all the hand-wringing.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I’ll be pissed if this was just a fake “it was close till the end”
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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If there is one thing we have become used to as Flames fans it is finishing runner up for a big trade and in this case signing.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Success is measured in so many ways now.  
With the amount of banners raised in recent years up there, they should be serving hotdogs with all that kool-aid.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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