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		|  07-09-2022, 02:51 PM | #6621 |  
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					Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction  I predict that Johnny walks and Tkachuk accepts his QO to set himself up to become a UFA next year. Treliving decides to make a go of it and the Flames are a bubble team at the TDL, so they decide not sell. After barely missing the playoffs, the Flames are neither a lottery team or competitive. We then go through all this over again trying to get Tkachuk to re-sign, he doesn’t and the rebuild is no longer avoidable. The next few drafts end up being terrible. 
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Boy you must be a blast to hang around with. Hahaha jeeze-louise man.
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		|  07-09-2022, 02:52 PM | #6622 |  
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			I predict that Johnny sighs for $10.5 M and Flames win the cup next season, Chucky see what team can do and want to be able to participate a repeat, so he signs a $10.5 M next season as well.     |  
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		|  07-09-2022, 02:54 PM | #6623 |  
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			I think JG is definitely re-signing. The fact(?) that there has been a counter offer pretty much seals it IMO. The Flames could have accepted the offer and JG would be locked up with the Flames right now. They wouldn’t have countered if he was going to FA.
		 
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		|  07-09-2022, 02:57 PM | #6624 |  
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			I hate the Oilers, but regardless, I do not believe they should be getting a cap recapture credit.  Why should they?  Just because Blackhawks get dink doesn't mean Oilers should get the credits.  And I don't care if NHLPA isn't going to be unhappy. 
 
 
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		|  07-09-2022, 02:57 PM | #6625 |  
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					Originally Posted by littlereddevil  Very unlikely that Johnny goes to Philly. It's going to be way too tough for them to fit him in under the cap. 
 Plus the team is a dumpster fire, with no clear direction or vision on their future. If I were Johnny I'd stay away from them if he really cared about his legacy / earning potential or their winning potential.
 
 Honestly, I think if rumours about his asking price are true, there are going to be very few teams capable of offering him a competitive deal, while Calgary still has the upper hand in negotiations and has established a strong relationship with him and his family over the past 10 years.
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FWIW there is speculation Philly are trying to move Provorov and his 6.75M
https://mobile.twitter.com/stefen_ro...92999560564736 
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:07 PM | #6627 |  
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:10 PM | #6628 |  
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			Speculation and hearsay are *kinds* of evidence.
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:10 PM | #6629 |  
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			If Gaudreau really wants to go to Philly and there is nothing we can do about it, do we take Proverov or Konecky to help them shed salary?
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:12 PM | #6630 |  
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					Originally Posted by HitterD  Sounds like you just thought up the worst case scenario in your head and decided to make that your “prediction”. Must be fun being this type of fan. 
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His post literally reflects half the fanbase on this board. I hate it.
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:15 PM | #6631 |  
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					Originally Posted by Burning Beard  Boy you must be a blast to hang around with. Hahaha jeeze-louise man. |  
Also, the Dome roof caved in. 
 
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:17 PM | #6632 |  
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					Originally Posted by MrMike  If Gaudreau really wants to go to Philly and there is nothing we can do about it, do we take Proverov or Konecky to help them shed salary? |  
I would think both of those players could be easily dealt to Seattle or Arizona or another team with cap space. Konecny had a rough year but at 25 with 3 years left at $5.5 I am sure a team would send an asset to give him a fresh start. The same with Provorov who is the same age and has 3 years at $6.75M back. 
 
What would the Flames need to add to the 8 year sign and trade to get Konecny? Likely a solid pick, prospect, or both
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:21 PM | #6633 |  
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					Originally Posted by Freeway  Speculation and hearsay are *kinds* of evidence. |  
Inadmissible kinds
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:22 PM | #6634 |  
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Oilers will take him if it means Philly can sign Gaudreau
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:26 PM | #6635 |  
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					Originally Posted by Ashasx  I hate the Oilers but they really should be getting a cap credit because otherwise the entire league wide cap is reduced by the amount of the penalty on the Blackhawks. NHLPA can't be happy with that. |  
The total cap available in the league could be reduced by max 0.15%. And that's only actually true if CHI exceeds the cap floor by less than 4M - which is very unlikely unless they trade one of Kane/Toews for the whole season.
 
A credit system would have had to been clearly introduced at the same time as the penalty was - it would have created an interesting ecosystem where teams coming out of rebuilds would have targetted these contracts while they could afford them to then expand their cap subsequently. But of course it would also require the players to actually retire and not LTIRetire like 95% of the other cases.
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:35 PM | #6636 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hack&Lube  Photon himself posted earlier in the thread that he had on authority that a deal to move Lucic was pretty much done. |  
I think that was Bingo not Pho
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:36 PM | #6637 |  
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:38 PM | #6638 |  
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					Originally Posted by VilleN  I think JG is definitely re-signing. The fact(?) that there has been a counter offer pretty much seals it IMO. The Flames could have accepted the offer and JG would be locked up with the Flames right now. They wouldn’t have countered if he was going to FA. |  
That ‘fact’ is debatable. Have you heard that from anybody else other than a poster that heard from his neighbor?
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		|  07-09-2022, 03:48 PM | #6639 |  
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					Originally Posted by VilleN  I think JG is definitely re-signing. The fact(?) that there has been a counter offer pretty much seals it IMO. The Flames could have accepted the offer and JG would be locked up with the Flames right now. They wouldn’t have countered if he was going to FA. |  
I agree IF  a counter was made but we don't know for sure. 
That was only based on a post here, and not to discredit that poster but that's not enough to know it happened.
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