04-17-2022, 06:56 PM
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Given how subjective voting for individual trophies is I'm past really caring.
Its nice when one of your players surmounts the odds and wins one considering everything they've got going against them, but if they dont?
Its no real skin off my back.
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04-17-2022, 07:06 PM
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#22
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Honestly, if Iginla didn't win neither will JG. Just the way it goes playing in a small market.
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04-17-2022, 07:21 PM
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Fearmongerer
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Matthews
Huberdeau
Gaudreau
In that order after voting is my guess.
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04-17-2022, 07:25 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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I hope he's a finalist. That's about it.
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04-17-2022, 07:28 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Johnnys gotta be a favourite, McDavid has Draisatl and Huberdeau is on a more stacked team. If he closes out at 2 ppg he’s 50/50 with Josi/Makar
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04-17-2022, 07:40 PM
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First round-bust
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herashak
Johnnys gotta be a favourite, McDavid has Draisatl and Huberdeau is on a more stacked team. If he closes out at 2 ppg he’s 50/50 with Josi/Makar
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You left out the two favourites: Matthews and Shesterkin.
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04-17-2022, 07:44 PM
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#27
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In the Sin Bin
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The plus minus and even strength points should do it but not when a Leafs player is breaking that teams mediocre records.
Hart might not be the best thing when it comes to contact negotiation for the Flames anyway.
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04-17-2022, 08:07 PM
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#28
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Location: SW Ontario
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Matthews will win, he plays in the centre of the hockey universe. Gaudreau should be the choice though imo. If he played in the East he would win.
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04-17-2022, 08:18 PM
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#29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herashak
Johnnys gotta be a favourite, McDavid has Draisatl and Huberdeau is on a more stacked team. If he closes out at 2 ppg he’s 50/50 with Josi/Makar
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It’s been given more recently to the player judged not the most valuable but the best.
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04-17-2022, 08:26 PM
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Only if he wins the Art Ross. Otherwise no.
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04-17-2022, 09:05 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
It’s been given more recently to the player judged not the most valuable but the best.
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I think the obsession with the distinction is kinda dumb though. I don’t think the MVP award should be a debate over semantics about word definitions.
The award should go to the best player in the league in that particular year.
If it really were the most valuable, it would go to a goalie every single year.
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04-17-2022, 09:09 PM
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He should but I doubt he does. Mathews will win because Toronto
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04-17-2022, 09:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heep223
Sorry what about that little goalie in NYC? Seems like he’s the front runner by quite a bit. Without him Rangers aren’t even in a playoff spot IMO.
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Shesterkin - 50gp - 205 GAA - 0.935 Pct - 5 SO
Kiprusoff - 74gp - 207 GAA - 0.923 Pct -10 SO
Kipper was the run away winner of the Vezina but a distant 3rd for the Hart
Personally I don't think Shesterkin has enough starts to warrant the Hart. He'll win the Vezina but I suspect the voting won't be a slam dunk win like Kippers was.
It's been 20 years since a goalie won the Hart, Theodore had 67 starts that year and still only won because of a complete biased moron Montreal writer.
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04-17-2022, 09:24 PM
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#34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Shesterkin - 50gp - 205 GAA - 0.935 Pct - 5 SO
Kiprusoff - 74gp - 207 GAA - 0.923 Pct -10 SO
Kipper was the run away winner of the Vezina but a distant 3rd for the Hart
Personally I don't think Shesterkin has enough starts to warrant the Hart. He'll win the Vezina but I suspect the voting won't be a slam dunk win like Kippers was.
It's been 20 years since a goalie won the Hart, Theodore had 67 starts that year and still only won because of a complete biased moron Montreal writer.
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I'm still furious about this! 
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04-17-2022, 09:28 PM
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All I can get
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It's more a question of how many.
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04-17-2022, 09:38 PM
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How are the votes spread out? Is there a source where you can see where each vote comes from?
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04-17-2022, 10:21 PM
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#37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackey
How are the votes spread out? Is there a source where you can see where each vote comes from?
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There is but I believe it's kept within the writers and the league, it got leaked in 02 because of the writer in Montreal who completely left Iginla off his ballad and that type of snub didn't go over well.
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04-17-2022, 10:32 PM
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#38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Shesterkin - 50gp - 205 GAA - 0.935 Pct - 5 SO
Kiprusoff - 74gp - 207 GAA - 0.923 Pct -10 SO
Kipper was the run away winner of the Vezina but a distant 3rd for the Hart
Personally I don't think Shesterkin has enough starts to warrant the Hart. He'll win the Vezina but I suspect the voting won't be a slam dunk win like Kippers was.
It's been 20 years since a goalie won the Hart, Theodore had 67 starts that year and still only won because of a complete biased moron Montreal writer.
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Carey Price won the Hart in 2015
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04-17-2022, 11:40 PM
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#39
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Matthews absolutely deserves to win. Dude is a monster all over the ice.
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04-18-2022, 12:17 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Matthews absolutely deserves to win. Dude is a monster all over the ice.
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He is up there but what makes him the run away winner? more goals? Leafs don't seem to have much trouble winning without him
Gaudreau has more points, even strength points, better plus minus
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