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Old 03-05-2022, 12:36 PM   #9461
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God bless Jim Benning!
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Old 03-05-2022, 12:42 PM   #9462
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God bless Jim Benning!
And bless the four other GMs who also passed on Tkachuk after Matthews! Hard to argue that he wouldn’t be No. 2 in a re-draft.
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Old 03-05-2022, 01:01 PM   #9463
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And bless the four other GMs who also passed on Tkachuk after Matthews! Hard to argue that he wouldn’t be No. 2 in a re-draft.
I think you could still argue for Laine.

If I were to re-rank the top of that draft, I’d go:

1. Auston Matthews
2. Patrik Laine
3. Matthew Tkachuk
4. Pierre-Luc Dubois
5. Jacob Chychrun
6. Mikhail Sergechev
7. Clayton Keller

Laine I think just landed in a rough dressing room, and then has had to deal with some harder parts of life in Columbus but he’s now settled and looks at home. He’s a hell of a talent.
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Old 03-05-2022, 01:06 PM   #9464
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Laine scores goals, which is valuable. Tkachuk is a more complete player.

It's a coin flip. I am happy we got the one we got.
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Old 03-05-2022, 01:38 PM   #9465
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I think you could still argue for Laine.

If I were to re-rank the top of that draft, I’d go:

1. Auston Matthews
2. Patrik Laine
3. Matthew Tkachuk
4. Pierre-Luc Dubois
5. Jacob Chychrun
6. Mikhail Sergechev
7. Clayton Keller

Laine I think just landed in a rough dressing room, and then has had to deal with some harder parts of life in Columbus but he’s now settled and looks at home. He’s a hell of a talent.
Would you trade Tkachuk for Laine? I wouldn't.
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Old 03-05-2022, 01:46 PM   #9466
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If I were to re-rank the top of that draft, I’d go:

1. Auston Matthews
2. Patrik Laine
3. Matthew Tkachuk
4. Pierre-Luc Dubois
5. Jacob Chychrun
6. Mikhail Sergechev
7. Clayton Keller
I'd say Kyrou, DeBrincat and Fox would all be ahead of Keller (Kyrou possibly in the top 5)
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Old 03-05-2022, 01:47 PM   #9467
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Would you trade Tkachuk for Laine? I wouldn't.
Nope. And I would have maybe even last year.

That’s without thinking about contract though.
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Old 03-05-2022, 01:48 PM   #9468
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I'd say Kyrou, DeBrincat and Fox would all be ahead of Keller (Kyrou possibly in the top 5)
Fox is a Norris winner. He’s top 5 at least.
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Old 03-05-2022, 01:52 PM   #9469
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Fox goes 2 in a re-draft I think, unless other teams would still stay away due to signability.
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Old 03-05-2022, 01:54 PM   #9470
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Fox goes 2 in a re-draft I think, unless other teams would still stay away due to signability.
Yes, since redrafts are perfect hindsight I guess you have to trade the pick.
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Old 03-05-2022, 01:54 PM   #9471
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I think I would probably go something like this.
Charles McAvoy also goes top 5 for me.

1. Matthews
2. Fox
3. Tkachuk
4. McAvoy
5. Laine
6. Dubois
7. Debrincat
8. Chych
9. Sergachev
10. Keller

That's my top 10. Kyrou probably should be in there but not sure where.
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Old 03-05-2022, 02:09 PM   #9472
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Yeah I definitely didn’t look beyond the top of the draft, Fox and Kyrou certainly climb.

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Old 03-05-2022, 04:06 PM   #9473
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I think I would probably go something like this.
Charles McAvoy also goes top 5 for me.

1. Matthews
2. Fox
3. Tkachuk
4. McAvoy
5. Laine
6. Dubois
7. Debrincat
8. Chych
9. Sergachev
10. Keller

That's my top 10. Kyrou probably should be in there but not sure where.
Yeah that looks perfect to me with Kyrou bumping Keller.
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Old 03-05-2022, 04:08 PM   #9474
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I have thought about this player over the years as a fit for the Flames and now Eklund is reporting it (so it won’t happen). Dylan Strome is a player he says could be coming to the Flames for center help (he also lists Calgary as teams kicking tires on Chairot and Gio.

Would a Strome-Dube swap work? I know the knock on him is he is slow.

Monahan for Strome would be a nice move for us
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Old 03-05-2022, 04:34 PM   #9475
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I think I would probably go something like this.
Charles McAvoy also goes top 5 for me.

1. Matthews
2. Fox
3. Tkachuk
4. McAvoy
5. Laine
6. Dubois
7. Debrincat
8. Chych
9. Sergachev
10. Keller

That's my top 10. Kyrou probably should be in there but not sure where.
The Flames made 2 of the top 3 picks. That's pretty decent.
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Yeah that looks perfect to me with Kyrou bumping Keller.
With the way Keller is playing this year, I take him over Kyrou ... but it's certainly close.
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Old 03-05-2022, 05:06 PM   #9477
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I have thought about this player over the years as a fit for the Flames and now Eklund is reporting it (so it won’t happen). Dylan Strome is a player he says could be coming to the Flames for center help (he also lists Calgary as teams kicking tires on Chairot and Gio.

Would a Strome-Dube swap work? I know the knock on him is he is slow.

Monahan for Strome would be a nice move for us
If Sutter wasn’t our coach, I would say stay far away from Strome, but I believe Sutter could do something with him. I would bet that Mony could outskate him.
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If Sutter wasn’t our coach, I would say stay far away from Strome, but I believe Sutter could do something with him. I would bet that Mony could outskate him.
I would take that bet
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If Monahan was a career Oiler or Canuck, this board would unanimously mock him

+/- doesn't matter

5v5 production he's unlucky and plays with bad players

5 'good' years and a letter but when he's not scoring he's more useless than 40 year old Jarome Iginla

People suggesting he helped Gaudreau just as much and was once franchise level

Lmfao Jesus christ

Nice guy, but the stuff I'm reading here is insane

On ice performance and it's a what have you done for me lately league

He might... 'might' be more effective than than Ruzicka lol... factor in cap hit now fellas lol

He is one of the most overpaid players in the cap era at this point. Wake up
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You can nitpick who should be where in that 2016 Draft but the point still stands, Vancouver is no good.
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