[Trade] Toffoli to Flames for 2022 1st *, 2023 5th, Heineman, and Pitlick - Page 30 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

JackIsBack · 02-14-2022, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NiklasSundblad

There's almost certainly an NHLPA directory every player gets.

Lol.... so they can chirp at each other before and after games too.

Monahammer · 02-14-2022, 02:52 PM

Anyone got a link for the Toffoli interview?

Jiri Hrdina · 02-14-2022, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Exciting aquisition but man that is alot to give up if no salary is retained. Seems like a little less than what we gave up for Hamonic, hopefully this ends better

The issue with the Hamonic deal was how high the 1st ended up being.

Hamonic for 12th overall and two 2nds
compared to
Toffoli for a mid 20s pick, a guy drafted in the 2nd round, and a 5th.

I know which deal I like.

djsFlames · 02-14-2022, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Exciting aquisition but man that is alot to give up if no salary is retained. Seems like a little less than what we gave up for Hamonic, hopefully this ends better

a) There is term
b) Connections and coach familiarity
c) Significantly better player than Hamonic ended up being
d) Addresses a glaring need

I'm not worried.

JackIsBack · 02-14-2022, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Monahammer

Anyone got a link for the Toffoli interview?

One was on the Flames site... but I heard a quote about being the first one to the arena at 10am that Toffoli said, so I'm looking for that one.

IamNotKenKing · 02-14-2022, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The issue with the Hamonic deal was how high the 1st ended up being.

Hamonic for 12th overall and two 2nds
compared to
Toffoli for 32nd overall pick, a guy drafted in the 2nd round, and a 5th.

I know which deal I like.

Fixed your post.

tvp2003 · 02-14-2022, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Hopefully this works out for both teams. I hope Heineman plays 200 nhl games

The Habs have to be happy with the asset management. Sign Toffoli as a UFA and go to the Cup finals with him. Then a year later trade him for a 1st and a prospect because he's been able to outperform his contract.

I'm just sad we couldn't get him in 2020; no cap space after signing Markstrom and Tanev though. Although in an alternate universe where Sutter starts the offseason as the head coach, maybe Toffoli picks us instead...

JackIsBack · 02-14-2022, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Toffoli for a mid 20s pick, a guy drafted in the 2nd round, and a 5th

Doesn't the Stanley Cup winner pick 32nd.... I don't understand this mid 20s thing you quoted. (LOL).

oooo... Someone beat me to it.

dash_pinched · 02-14-2022, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by getbak

Former Nucks... Toffoli, Markstrom, Tanev, Gudbranson
Drafted with pick acquired from Nucks... Andersson
Drafted after being passed-over by the Nucks... Tkachuk

Oh, Dim Jim, we'll miss you.

Since it's Valentines Day...

Bonded · 02-14-2022, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CSharp

As for Markstrom, I'm still not totally sold on why Tre needed to get him when there are cheaper options. I think implying that Markstrom is a savior on this team as compared to Kipper wouldn't be fair to what the players are doing in front of their goalie at this point in time.

You sound like an Oiler's fan saying they didn't need Markstrom. Who were the comparable and cheaper options?

Hot_Flatus · 02-14-2022, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Exciting aquisition but man that is alot to give up if no salary is retained. Seems like a little less than what we gave up for Hamonic, hopefully this ends better

A C+ prospect, late first rounder, 5th and Pitlick is a lot for a consistent goal scorer that plays a 200 foot game? I'd do this deal any day of the week for a team in the Flames current situation.

The prospect, 5th and Pitlick are nothing of substance to this franchise. The first could possibly be a loss, but in reality what would be a late first rounder is not going to help this team in anyway anytime soon.

Kipper_3434 · 02-14-2022, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by djsFlames

a) There is term
b) Connections and coach familiarity
c) Significantly better player than Hamonic ended up being
d) Addresses a glaring need

I'm not worried.

Wow condescending much?

A) Hamonic had term as well (duh)
B) okay sure
C)Significantly better player (lets just hope thats true)
D)RHS defence is always a need, and a more valuable position than wing

Like i said, exciting aquisition, cost just seems higher than i would have guessed.

blankall · 02-14-2022, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by djsFlames

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Pavelski - Toffoli
Dube - Backlund - Coleman
Lucic - Ruzicka - Lewis

Make it so..

I honestly don't think the franchise will give up on Monahan until the off season, but that's the best Flames lineup I've seen since the early 90s. No dead weight and legit players in each of their respective spots.

Geeoff · 02-14-2022, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

^Thanks all for the explanation on "no-Tylers"

I cannot believe I forgot a Simpsons reference. For shame.

There's never a time when I'm not thinking of the Stonecutters episode of the Simpsons. It's always in the back of my mind. I'm not sure if this is a positive LOL

sleepingmoose · 02-14-2022, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Geeoff

There's never a time when I'm not thinking of the Stonecutters episode of the Simpsons. It's always in the back of my mind. I'm not sure if this is a positive LOL

There's probably still a bunch of suckers out there calling 911 when they have an emergency. Winners call 912.

NegativeSpace · 02-14-2022, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

He was just fine in Vancouver and L.A. no reason to speculate a downside because of the conference.

I seem to recall the team he played for went a run last year.

djsFlames · 02-14-2022, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Wow condescending much?

A) Hamonic had term as well (duh)
B) okay sure
C)Significantly better player (lets just hope thats true)
D)RHS defence is always a need, and a more valuable position than wing

Like i said, exciting aquisition, cost just seems higher than i would have guessed.

What on earth?

I was reassuring your concern.

Ok lol time for me to go do other things.

Pacem · 02-14-2022, 03:05 PM

Love the move. I was worried it would have to include a better prospect than what we included.

I like how early this trade was done. I think that kept the cost down and I've never been a fan of big adds on deadline day.

Just depth pieces needed for a deep run. It will be tough with Vegas in our way.

Kipper_3434 · 02-14-2022, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by djsFlames

a) There is term
b) Connections and coach familiarity
c) Significantly better player than Hamonic ended up being
d) Addresses a glaring need

I'm not worried.

Quote:

Originally Posted by djsFlames

What on earth?

I was reassuring your concern.

Ok lol time for me to go do other things.

As you can probably tell from my reply, giving an alphabetised list to someone on a hockey forum containing basic info that any fan has access to, is pretty darn douchy. Have a nice day.

Textcritic · 02-14-2022, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

It's cool, sometimes we can cut our neighbours to the North a break. Let them think we're making a mistake on this "mediocre" team as it's likely the only reprieve they get from their agonizing existence.

They go out and get "THE" UFA forward in Zach Hyman.

...we sign Blake Coleman to a more reasonable deal.

They spent two 2nd round picks on 9 games of Andreas Athanasiou

...we trade a 1st, a B prospect, a 5th and a dump for 2.5 years of Tyler Toffoli

We sign Jacob Markstrom

...they extend a 400 year old belly flopper

We hire Darryl Sutter

...they hire Jay something or other

We sign Chris Tanev

...they pay Nurse $9.25M

This is beautiful.

Thank you.