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Old 12-03-2021, 09:57 AM   #6141
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how do you sign Johnny and Tkachuk if you trade for Toffoli and his 4.25 cap hit?
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Old 12-03-2021, 09:58 AM   #6142
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Just lurkin to go lick more of that delicious oilers fan salt, and I see that they are earnestly discussing trading for Price at full cap hit.

I can't think of anything that would more fully #### the franchises cap structure for the next half decade than this move. Please god please.
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Old 12-03-2021, 09:59 AM   #6143
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how do you sign Johnny and Tkachuk if you trade for Toffoli and his 4.25 cap hit?
You worry about that in the offseason.

You maybe have to trade/ buyout monahan. Or maybe not. Maybe Lucic retires if we win the cup or something.

Anyways, that's what I mean. Worry about that later. Go all in now. We have a legit chance for once, and our core is going to be hard to maintain after this year. Might as well try our hardest right now.
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Old 12-03-2021, 10:00 AM   #6144
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On Tarasenko, I am surprised that he is having the comeback he is, but I am still glad that we didn’t trade Tkachuk for him.

I like the idea of getting Toffoli. And as pleased as I have been with Lucic, if he keeps up his play, he could even have positive trade value. With only 1 year left and a low base salary, he could be enticing to a team wanting to save money while reaching the cap floor. In the off season of course. I wouldn’t trade him this season.
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Old 12-03-2021, 10:01 AM   #6145
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Lol why are some of you against trying to win the cup this year?
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Old 12-03-2021, 10:11 AM   #6146
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Just lurkin to go lick more of that delicious oilers fan salt, and I see that they are earnestly discussing trading for Price at full cap hit.

I can't think of anything that would more fully #### the franchises cap structure for the next half decade than this move. Please god please.
Really? Where?
I went over to HF boards and didn't see any such discussion.
I saw some spit balling if he was available with retention but nothing on a full cap Price.
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Old 12-03-2021, 10:58 AM   #6147
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Old 12-03-2021, 12:44 PM   #6148
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That’s about as dumb as waiving Kylington last year
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Old 12-03-2021, 12:47 PM   #6149
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Wow Calgary should be all over this. Clague-Gudbranson is exactly what we need on pair 3.
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Old 12-03-2021, 12:49 PM   #6150
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As long as Zadorov continues to improve, I doubt therell be much rustling of the roster.
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I know nothing about Clague. I see he's a 2nd round pick. Is he highly projected?
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Old 12-03-2021, 12:51 PM   #6152
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Didn't Clague clear once alrady?
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I know nothing about Clague. I see he's a 2nd round pick. Is he highly projected?
In Junior he was an elite producer, but defensive play was a question mark

Since turning pro, he's become a solid ~#4 defenseman. He's not too different IMO from what Hanifin was back in ~2018ish
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Old 12-03-2021, 12:53 PM   #6154
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Didn't Clague clear once alrady?
Yes. He was put on waivers on Oct 3. However he has reached 10 games played so requires being put on waivers again to be sent down.
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One of those guys likely living off their "upside" reputation.
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Old 12-03-2021, 12:59 PM   #6156
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One of those guys likely living off their "upside" reputation.
He's 23 and has had a decent start to his NHL career on an otherwise bad team. He may not be a top pair guy, but he's an upgrade on Valimaki and Zadorov
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Old 12-03-2021, 01:02 PM   #6157
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Then why is he being waived on a bad team?
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Old 12-03-2021, 01:05 PM   #6158
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Then why is he being waived on a bad team?
Why did the Flames wave Kylington last year under Ward when they'd eventually miss the playoffs? They didn't even send him down.

Why did the Flames wave Kulak a season after finishing outside of the playoffs?

Why did the Flames waive Byron only to finish so behind in the standings they'd draft Tkachuk?

"" MSL, Stralman, Savard, Giguere etc.

Sometimes there's no sensible answer as to why NHL GMs do stuff with respect to blatantly useful players. It takes a special kinds of mental gymnastics to be a GM.
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Old 12-03-2021, 01:20 PM   #6160
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That’s about as dumb as waiving Kylington last year
Sometimes I wonder if GMs have a group chat going...

CGY: "guys I need to waive kylington to move him down, hands off!"
BUF: "omg, first"
ANA: "k, but give me johnny"
CGY: "lol"
DAL: "get him, holland"
TBL: "lol"
CGY: "oh god"
VAN: "hahaha holland doesn't even know how"
TOR: "ken u gonna take that?"
VAN: "yeah he is, just like peter took it in that hall trade lolol"
NJD: "lmao!!"
EDM: "finally reset my password"
EDM: "let's see you guess this one, benning"
VAN: "sure, brb"
EDM: "can't believe you guys were just gonna let him trade mcdavid to himself"
EDM: "wait, hall's going on waivers!? f you guys, his mine!"
DAL: "omg"
MTL: "dude"
SJS: "how tf does this guy get into the HOF"
OTT: "kneepads obv"
CGY: "lol"
ANA: "hey ken, how many goals does lucic have this year"
TBL: "lolol"
EDM: "guys, it's jim again lol"
CGY: "LOL"
DAL: "omfg hahaha"
EDM: "k, same deal as last time? i get mcdavid, you guys draft the rest?"
DET: "haha, yeah but do we really need to figure out the whole order this time?"
EDM: "fair, no one wanted anything after draisaitl and rnh last time"
NHL: "guys, come on - you know we're not going to let this happen"
PIT: "shut up gary, you're the one that rigged the mcdavid lottery in the first place"
PHI: "uhhh... how's crosby working out for you guys"
PIT: "..."
EDM: "gdi benning"
BUF: "lol"
EDM: "i'm running out of kids names!"
VAN: "use your dogs names"
DAL: "ken, you're an idiot"
NHL has silenced DAL for 30 seconds, reason: bullying
MTL: "nice job, nill"
CGY: "gary, did you get the paperwork this time or is your fax machine turned off again"
NHL: "come on, tree, that happened one time"
CGY: "never. forgive."
NHL: "wideman"
CGY "gdi"

I just realized I could keep going with this all day long, so I'ma stop now.
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