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Old 10-30-2021, 12:07 AM   #41
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He was underpaid when he put up 82 points
Oh were you asking about seasons past?

Similarly with Marner when he put up 94.
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Old 10-30-2021, 12:23 AM   #42
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Oh were you asking about seasons past?

Similarly with Marner when he put up 94.
Marner makes 11M

He should be putting up 110
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Old 10-30-2021, 12:27 AM   #43
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Marner makes 11M

He should be putting up 110
Splitting hairs, but ok. Why did you bring up past season's point production?
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Old 10-30-2021, 12:47 AM   #44
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Splitting hairs, but ok. Why did you bring up past season's point production?
Because Monahan has one year left on his deal beyond this one. He is on year six of 7 @ 6.3 He lived up to his contract for the majority of the deal.

Marner has 3 years left after this season @ 11M

The guy was saying how great the Leafs were with the cap and the Flames overpay players

Monahan might be overpaid the last couple seasons...after being a bargain for he first half. Marner has never lived up to his contract.

This idea that the Leafs are good with the cap and the Flames are terrible is wrong.

Look at Lindholm and Hanafin

Lucic is the Flames only really bad contract IMO and he probably retires in the offseason or at worst one more year.

Leafs couldn't ice a team 2 weeks ago and had to get a rent a goalie
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Old 10-30-2021, 01:02 AM   #45
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Yeah your question was:
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Who on the Flames is overpaid beside Lucic?.
I simply replied Monahan, which is unfortunately accurate.

Then you hallucinated with this narrative.

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Because Monahan has one year left on his deal beyond this one. He is on year six of 7 @ 6.3 He lived up to his contract for the majority of the deal.

Marner has 3 years left after this season @ 11M

The guy was saying how great the Leafs were with the cap and the Flames overpay players

Monahan might be overpaid the last couple seasons...after being a bargain for he first half. Marner has never lived up to his contract.

This idea that the Leafs are good with the cap and the Flames are terrible is wrong.

Look at Lindholm and Hanafin

Lucic is the Flames only really bad contract IMO and he probably retires in the offseason or at worst one more year.

Leafs couldn't ice a team 2 weeks ago and had to get a rent a goalie
Lol, so bizarre.
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Old 10-30-2021, 01:05 AM   #46
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Yeah your question was:

I simply replied Monahan, which is unfortunately accurate.

Then you hallucinated with this narrative.



Lol, so bizarre.
Maybe if you actually read the thread you would understand...I literally quoted the guy I was replying to yet you took my post totally out of context

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But the team doesn't have money wasted on any one player. This isn't a Flames discussion but there are several players overpaid for what they bring, and based on that tie up finances year over year. Can't say Toronto has that.
Several players?

Lucic and....

Monahan this second but he has been a good contract for the majority...6M is a 60 point player. Zadorov? one year deal, 3M isn't a lot these days.
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Old 10-30-2021, 01:10 AM   #47
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Maybe if you actually read the thread you would understand...I quoted the guy I was replying to
You're confused in not understanding I replied to a singular question, and replied with irrelevancy.

This is my last reply to you.
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Old 10-30-2021, 01:12 AM   #48
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You're confused in not understanding I replied to a singular question, and replied with irrelevancy.

This is my last reply to you.
lol you replied to me replying to someone...I posted above

He said the Leafs didn't have SEVERAL bad contracts like the Flames

Lucic...Monahan is bad but hasn't been a bad contract. He will overperform it more seasons than under.

"hallucinated with this narrative"

again, read the whole conversation...its all there, you just came in late and took things out of context
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Old 10-30-2021, 09:11 AM   #49
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Not a bad contract for Rielly. Then again the Leafs have little choice because their defense has no depth. Say what you want about Matthews, Marner and Nylander but the Leafs really knee-capped themselves signing Tavares. Should have spent that money shoring up their defense and then they also could have kept guys like Hyman and Kapanen.
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Old 10-30-2021, 10:42 AM   #50
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To follow up on what I wrote, I was referring to the Flames year after year making bad signings that handcuff them. Lucic was the current roster obvious one, but prior years it was Neal, Raymond, Brouwer. I'm not talking about the good deals on the team, but the vast overpayments which handcuff the team such as the aforementioned ones above. Even Gio, captain and all really hurt the team with that $6.xx contract. These all were contracts that were long term and for a hefty amount more than they were worth.
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To follow up on what I wrote, I was referring to the Flames year after year making bad signings that handcuff them. Lucic was the current roster obvious one, but prior years it was Neal, Raymond, Brouwer. I'm not talking about the good deals on the team, but the vast overpayments which handcuff the team such as the aforementioned ones above. Even Gio, captain and all really hurt the team with that $6.xx contract. These all were contracts that were long term and for a hefty amount more than they were worth.
Gio's contract did not hurt the team.
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Old 10-30-2021, 11:17 AM   #52
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Gios contract was great value
Odd take
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Old 10-30-2021, 01:25 PM   #53
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Gios contract was great value
Odd take
It drives me crazy that posters complain about Treliving not signing 8 year deals but then complaining about players not earning the salary in one or two years out of a multi-year contract (and ignoring the years when they vastly outplayed the annual salary).
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Old 10-30-2021, 01:30 PM   #54
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Lol Giordano won a Norris on that contract and performed at a top pairing level every other year except maybe last year. Tough crowd

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Flames are the worst at everything posts don't often age well

Leafs have what 5 contracts higher than any Flame player and their core has yet to win a round. Or even a play in round.
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