[News] Kyle Beach reveals himself as John Doe, speaks out to TSN's Rick Westhead about abuse

[johnnyrocket03]

Beach also mentioned the "million follower insiders" which after a quick look, I can only see Dreger and McKenzie that have over 1 million twitter followers. If they had the story and didn't put it out there, that's not a good look, in my opinion.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I mean, sorta, consequence for actions do help to deter those actions in the future.

But honestly, this is about a mindset. It's about prioritizing success over humanity. It's about a distorted set of ethical values that are pervasive and integrated into every aspect of this game, and pro sports in general.

I worry that this will continue to happen until the culture of winning at all costs changes.

Well, sure. And it'll take a long time to change that mindset.

Consequences are the first step.

You did something wrong? You face the consequences. No covering it up. Then at the same time you help the victim, and set something up to help other victims because I'm sure there are others. Truly help, not some half baked attempt at looking good as far as the public goes.

Many organizations have done a great job in helping players when it comes to substance abuse & addiction. The Flames are a great example of this.

So there are ways. But what the NHL is doing now is telling the perpetrators they can get away with while at the same time telling the victims if the come forward nothing will be done about it anyways. Well, unless you have a dog on a bone like Westhead going after the story while other sports outlets like the Athletic, Sportsnet & CBC try to constantly bury it.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I could be wrong but didn’t Towes this summer say he had never even heard of the sexual abuse? Now he is saying that he heard about it the following training camp?

I was wondering about this as well.

I thought he had no idea, and now he is saying he found out about it the next year?

And then he did what? Act like nothing happened? Apparently.

What a coward.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

This is infuriating… what basis do these f&$@(*# pair of morons have to make the deduction that Duncan Keith would have done something about it had he known. 100% guaranteed Duncan Keith knew about this so we already have the answer on what Duncan Keith would have done, sweet f#$& all….

There should be backlash and consequences for bull$&#@ reporting and accusations like this on very real serious life situations that attempt to shed positive light on your dog#$&@ team and players when frankly it should be quite the opposite. Believe the Edmonton media has reached a new low here, very impressive for their standards.

To be fair, the Edmonton media is just doing what their corporate overlords are telling them to do. Basically the same thing Hrudley, McClean, Friedman, Bieska and the gang at CBC & Sportsnet have been doing for months while we were all sitting here shocked at what was coming out and wondering why Westhead isn't getting any help in pushing the story.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Azure

To be fair, the Edmonton media is just doing what their corporate overlords are telling them to do. Basically the same thing Hrudley, McClean, Friedman, Bieska and the gang at CBC & Sportsnet have been doing for months while we were all sitting here shocked at what was coming out and wondering why Westhead isn't getting any help in pushing the story.

Sportsnet Corporate instructed them to say that Duncan Keith would have done something if he would have known?

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Azure

To be fair, the Edmonton media is just doing what their corporate overlords are telling them to do. Basically the same thing Hrudley, McClean, Friedman, Bieska and the gang at CBC & Sportsnet have been doing for months while we were all sitting here shocked at what was coming out and wondering why Westhead isn't getting any help in pushing the story.

Doing this after the Beach interview is a different beast.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Doing this after the Beach interview is a different beast.

They would’ve looked like fools either way.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Azure

To be fair, the Edmonton media is just doing what their corporate overlords are telling them to do. Basically the same thing Hrudley, McClean, Friedman, Bieska and the gang at CBC & Sportsnet have been doing for months while we were all sitting here shocked at what was coming out and wondering why Westhead isn't getting any help in pushing the story.

After ignoring it for months, SN were fully aboard the “praise and honour the brave victim for positive PR and ratings” train last night.

Every segment, of which they dedicated several, were all about how they were right there supporting the victim and admiring his bravery, bringing in experts like Sheldon, who strangely didn’t even watch the Beach interview before appearing and didn’t seem overly familiar with the situation.

It was quite the turnaround from avoiding ever acknowledging the incident to patting themselves on the back for standing behind the victim all along.

Disgusting, really.


I can’t help but feel the same about all the insiders. MacKenzie, Friedman et al. They all ignore this story for months.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

They should name the 37 people that refused to cooperate during the investigation

They should. Wasn't it around 130 people who did speak to the investigators?

How can you not say anything? Bet one of them was that Jim Gary who was one of the worst offenders in that situation, especially with him putting all the blame on Beach.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1453551445018648579

Oh it gets worse

https://twitter.com/user/status/1453560700194934784

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

They should. Wasn't it around 130 people who did speak to the investigators?

How can you not say anything? Bet one of them was that Jim Gary who was one of the worst offenders in that situation, especially with him putting all the blame on Beach.

I'm not sure anyone other than the investigators have the names. I bet one name is Duncan Keith.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

How can you not say anything? Bet one of them was that Jim Gary who was one of the worst offenders in that situation, especially with him putting all the blame on Beach.

Absolutely. Seems to be getting lost in the mix a bit with the coaches and players as more interesting names to discuss, but this guy was a mental health professional employed to specifically deal with the players mental issues and this is what his response is?

F*** that guy. And the whole Hawks org for continuing to employ him for years beyond this.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I mean, sorta, consequence for actions do help to deter those actions in the future.

But honestly, this is about a mindset. It's about prioritizing success over humanity. It's about a distorted set of ethical values that are pervasive and integrated into every aspect of this game, and pro sports in general.

I worry that this will continue to happen until the culture of winning at all costs changes.

Not just that, but changes in the way that hockey is run for kids.
Seems like nothing has changed with vulnerable teens leaving home with no support system. With a lot of power over these kids and their futures put in the hands of people with what appears to be little oversight.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Oh it gets worse

https://twitter.com/user/status/1453560700194934784

Here’s the twitter image. Maybe it’s just me but I dislike tweets with text images, you can never see all the text without clicking on the tweet, which redirects to twitter and then clicking again to open the image. Not OPs fault, just the way twitter scales images in tweets.

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Well, I sent them an email. I can’t do much else… but holy #### I’m pissed about that. I encourage others to do the same.

feedback@sportsnet.rogers.com

Thank you I wrote in as well.

How can you watch the interview with Kyle Beach and believe this is the avenue you want to take when discussing sexual abuse. It's sick and it's dismissive of Beach's story and gives no credit to people like Vincent, Boyton, or Sopel in their efforts to aide the situation. You don't have to treat Kieth like a villan, but maybe just allow him to have that platform to speak up.

Personally as a Flames fan I would hope to see some sort of statement by the two connected players to that 2010 Cup team from Brouwer and Versteeeg.

[Wastedyouth]

Heads should role.

My goodness this whole situation is gross!

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Here’s the twitter image. Maybe it’s just me but I dislike tweets with text images, you can never see all the text without clicking on the tweet, which redirects to twitter and then clicking again to open the image. Not OPs fault, just the way twitter scales images in tweets.

More it’s seen the better, I say.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I'm not sure anyone other than the investigators have the names. I bet one name is Duncan Keith.

I don't know.

I would assume most players probably did speak to the investigators, and many probably just said what they said in public "we didn't know. tunnel vision, kinda heard rumors, playoff focus, blah blah." heck, look at the post above mine. The players seem too stupid to just keep their mouths shut.

Would anyone know if the investigators can legally say who refused to participate?
I don't see why not as they wouldn't be giving up confidential information by just saying "So and so refused to speak"

[Scooter]

Originally Posted by joejoe3

Where exactly is Bradley Aldrich right now?

Google Rick Westwood article on TSN "After jail for sex offence former Blackhawks video coach uses interns to build business" July 19 2021

[Coach]

Oh Toews. As soon as you reference the loss of “everything they care about” in regards to people getting held to accountability, instead of the actual victim, immediately washes any shred of humanity that may have remained for you. Gross.

Yes. The opportunity to resign. What a tragedy.