10-15-2021, 03:40 PM
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#4481
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
These quotes are quite eye-opening, wow.
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Eye opening as in management is the reason we suck out the gate every single freaking year, and then miss the playoffs by a #### start equivalent?
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10-15-2021, 03:41 PM
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#4482
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Or if you’re Vegas, or Colorado, or Tampa, or Washington, or the Leafs, pick a contender.
Tampa hasn’t drafted in the 1st round 4/7 years. Doesn’t seem to hurt them.
####, Calgary during the Iggy years.
Probably should’ve tried turning the picks that became Chucko, Pelech, and Nemisz into real players.
Probably should’ve offered Dion to Boston when they wanted Regehr and we wanted to send them Leopold.
What might have been.
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Thornton was just there for the taking... don't remind me that's some super depressing ####. Honestly, Sutter had a few bad moves, but that non-move was his worst. You couldn't beat SJs package? Stuart, Sturm and Primeau? Like really?
Iginla would've touched 60 with JT. They would've ruled the nhl. Ugghh
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10-15-2021, 03:43 PM
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#4483
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheoFleury
Thornton was just there for the taking... don't remind me that's some super depressing ####. Honestly, Sutter had a few bad moves, but that non-move was his worst. You couldn't beat SJs package? Stuart, Sturm and Primeau? Like really?
Iginla would've touched 60 with JT. They would've ruled the nhl. Ugghh
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I have no desire to see this repeat with Eichel.
I am extremely comfortable paying extra to ensure it doesn’t.
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10-15-2021, 03:44 PM
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#4484
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
These quotes are quite eye-opening, wow.
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Frankly, does Conroy actually know anything about coaching, developing players, etc? Who do I trust more with a roster - him or Sutter?
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10-15-2021, 03:46 PM
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#4485
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I have no desire to see this repeat with Eichel.
I would pay extra to ensure it doesn’t.
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Stuart. Sturm. Primeau
Probably the equivalent of
Regehr. Kobesew. Random bottom 6 guy
Just seriously bad managing
It was bad enough to lose out on O'Reilly going for a bag of crap. Not getting Eichel when we totally have the assets would be infuriating
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10-15-2021, 04:10 PM
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#4486
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Franchise Player
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Past 4pm now... I guess I am the latest in a long line of failed "Eichel to Calgary" prophets then 
Found some unverified rumor of them wanting Monahan and Hanifin and 2 other pieces. If nothing else... good for some BS speculation I guess
https://twitter.com/user/status/1449132781364260864
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10-15-2021, 04:12 PM
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#4487
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
Past 4pm now... I guess I am the latest in a long line of failed "Eichel to Calgary" prophets then
Found some unverified rumor of them wanting Monahan and Hanifin and 2 other pieces. If nothing else... good for some BS speculation I guess
https://twitter.com/user/status/1449132781364260864 |
I would deal Monahan and Hanifin for Eichel, but thats it. Adding to that is just ridiculous. Who out there is going to give up mid 20s top6 C and top4 D plus other high-end stuff?
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10-15-2021, 04:13 PM
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#4488
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
Past 4pm now... I guess I am the latest in a long line of failed "Eichel to Calgary" prophets then
Found some unverified rumor of them wanting Monahan and Hanifin and 2 other pieces. If nothing else... good for some BS speculation I guess
https://twitter.com/user/status/1449132781364260864 |
That is nothing close to what is reportedly being asked of every other team.
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10-15-2021, 04:18 PM
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#4489
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Franchise Player
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Flames can't move Hanifin right now
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10-15-2021, 04:19 PM
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#4490
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Frankly, does Conroy actually know anything about coaching, developing players, etc? Who do I trust more with a roster - him or Sutter?
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Regardless of qualifications or coaching ability, I don't think giving Sutter carte blanche is a surefire path to success either.
Conroy's been in the league. Heck, he WAS that guy who performed totally differently in a different role (St. Louis #3C vs Calgary #1C). He's a few months removed from TRADING a guy away who performed totally differently in a different role (after coach after coach - including Sutter's brief stint - refused to try it). He's obviously aware of successful organizations who do things the way he described, as someone whose job it is to watch virtually every game everywhere.
Honestly, the fact that there is (yet again) a disconnect on player evaluation between management and coaching philosophies is baffling.
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10-15-2021, 04:27 PM
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#4491
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Flames can move Hanifin right now
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I take it you meant can't?
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10-15-2021, 04:28 PM
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#4492
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Honestly, the fact that there is (yet again) a disconnect on player evaluation between management and coaching philosophies is baffling.
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It’s not uncommon for NHL management and coaches to be at odds over the deployment of young players. Management concern themselves with the long-term development of team assets, while coaches just care about winning the next game.
What’s concerning is when coaches get their way completely on the matter. I wasn’t especially pleased with the Sutter hire, and this just validates my concern that giving a coach who has such a short-term perspective the decisive voice in roster decisions is going to be bad for this franchise.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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10-15-2021, 04:29 PM
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#4493
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaskal
Past 4pm now... I guess I am the latest in a long line of failed "Eichel to Calgary" prophets then
Found some unverified rumor of them wanting Monahan and Hanifin and 2 other pieces. If nothing else... good for some BS speculation I guess
https://twitter.com/user/status/1449132781364260864 |
Let’s pretend this is true. That’s too much. Our D is already questionable, we can’t afford to trade one of the few bright spots left on it.
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10-15-2021, 04:37 PM
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#4494
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Franchise Player
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If we threw Hanifin into the Eichel trade, our D would be:
Zadorov - Tanev
Valimaki - Andersson
Kylington - Gudbranson
Stone
I hope I don't have to explain why that would be a bad idea.
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10-15-2021, 04:38 PM
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#4495
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
If we threw Hanifin into the Eichel trade, our D would be:
Zadorov - Tanev
Valimaki - Andersson
Kylington - Gudbranson
Stone
I hope I don't have to explain why that would be a bad idea.
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Pretty stinky lol
Hope hanifin's up to the challenge this year...
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10-15-2021, 04:40 PM
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#4496
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Franchise Player
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I will point out that trading for Eichel is not all about this year.
You can trade for another D who may not be as flashy as Hanifin, but who is perfectly serviceable.
Especially if the acquisition cost of Monahan + Hanifin precludes you from including additional 1sts or 2nds.
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10-15-2021, 04:41 PM
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#4497
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Lifetime Suspension
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(Even though skeptical, assuming true)
If Buffalo will take Valimaki in place of Hanifin, they can have their pick of 2 of our prospects/picks.
Vali + Monahan's salaries and the money still works, or pretty close to it.
We're not in a place to deal from our top 3 defenders.
Obviously there is a gap between Hanifin and Valimaki, but if I'm Brad waiting for the price to fall then that's the sacrifice I ask the Sabres to make in coming to a deal with us.
Last edited by djsFlames; 10-15-2021 at 04:46 PM.
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10-15-2021, 04:41 PM
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#4498
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I will point out that trading for Eichel is not all about this year.
You can trade for another D who may not be as flashy as Hanifin, but who is perfectly serviceable.
Especially if the acquisition cost of Monahan + Hanifin precludes you from including additional 1sts or 2nds.
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Yeah, I wouldn't let it stop me if I were BT
If this team is a hanifin injury away from annihilation, well then... we are probably already screwed
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10-15-2021, 04:43 PM
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#4499
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheoFleury
Yeah, I wouldn't let it stop me if I were BT
If this team is a hanifin injury away from annihilation, well then... we are probably already screwed
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The tweet says Monahan and TWO other premium pieces including Hanifin
Its not just Monahan/Hanifin
assuming they know anything which 99.9% they don't
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10-15-2021, 04:44 PM
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#4500
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Franchise Player
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well, at least with an injury, the odds are it doesn't happen
But if we start the season with that D, we aren't going to be anywhere near the playoffs, even with Eichel. That team never gets off the ground
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