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				Armia would be of interest to the Flames I assume (RHS, can play higher in the lineup if needed) but he just re-signed in Montreal and I'm always hesitant to include players like that in any fantasy proposals as it doesn't make sense to me that a team would sign the player to a long term deal then immediately move them. I guess these are extenuating circumstances though. 
 
Regardless, keeping as much of their Cup run team intact from this point forward and adding a solid 2C and still having space seems to be the best plan for them moving forward. Plus adding Byron back to the lineup. 
			
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I suppose they could move Anderson (albeit within his MTNC) or Toffoli instead but I would think they'd move Armia first.  IMO Hoffman is who I'd move but he's just signed as well.  Actually I'd try to move Gallagher because he's overpaid IMO.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 02:21 PM
			
			
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Does anyone know if this means he is upset that they have not removed Kane from the team?  Or is he on Kane’s side and thinks he’s not being treated fairly.  All it says that is that he is unhappy with the situation. 
 
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			08-31-2021, 02:27 PM
			
			
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			08-31-2021, 02:35 PM
			
			
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			I like Eichel, but I would be more intrigued with Hertl on this team. I think he would be Sutter’s favorite player. Having him and Lindholm down the middle would be terrifying for the opposing team. Both are two-way puck hounds.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 02:36 PM
			
			
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				Does anyone know if this means he is upset that they have not removed Kane from the team?  Or is he on Kane’s side and thinks he’s not being treated fairly.  All it says that is that he is unhappy with the situation.  
 
 
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I live in San Jose and can shed some light. It's option 1. Hertl (and 3 other players) are not happy with Kane still being in San Jose. Some are considering leaving or asking to be dealt if he is still there.
 
Kane put up his house for sale yesterday and in the last 2 days his divorce has gotten really ugly in the media. His wife a few months ago made claims against Kane saying he abandoned them. In the last few days he has made accusations against her saying she physically assaulted him.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 02:46 PM
			
			
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			Hertl has an NTC and is a UFA after this season, so he best not be expensive. Certainly wouldn't mind adding him, and IIRC we have been linked to him in the past... though it may have been through Eklund lol.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 03:06 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  stemit14
					 
				 
				Does anyone know if this means he is upset that they have not removed Kane from the team?  Or is he on Kane’s side and thinks he’s not being treated fairly.  All it says that is that he is unhappy with the situation.  
 
 
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Doubt anyone could be on Kane’s side.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 03:09 PM
			
			
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				I like Eichel, but I would be more intrigued with Hertl on this team. I think he would be Sutter’s favorite player. Having him and Lindholm down the middle would be terrifying for the opposing team. Both are two-way puck hounds. 
			
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I’d rather have Hertl and the $4.375 million cap room. That’s another pretty good player. 
 
Hertl’s neck isn’t broken too.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 03:15 PM
			
			
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			A Mangiapane - Hertl - Coleman line would be pretty solid, behind Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk. 
 
That leaves Monahan as the odd ball out… however, if you can get Hertl, IIRC he can also play wing. So, have him, Lindholm, and Monahan rotate the top 2 center positions:  
 
Gaudreau - Lindholm/Hertl - Tkachuk  
Hertl/Coleman - Monahan/Hertl - Coleman/Lindholm  
Dube - Backlund - Mangiapane  
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Ruzicka 
 
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			08-31-2021, 03:18 PM
			
			
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			That looks pretty confusing. I think if Hertl came in Monahan would be leaving. 
 
You’d have enough cap room with the current space to pick up another fairly good player.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 03:20 PM
			
			
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				A Mangiapane - Hertl - Coleman line would be pretty solid, behind Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk. 
 
That leaves Monahan as the odd ball out… however, if you can get Hertl, IIRC he can also play wing. So, have him, Lindholm, and Monahan rotate the top 2 center positions:  
 
Gaudreau - Lindholm/Hertl - Tkachuk  
Hertl/Coleman - Monahan/Hertl - Coleman/Lindholm  
Dube - Backlund - Mangiapane  
Lucic - Lewis - Pitlick  
Ruzicka 
 
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With having the likes of Pelletier and zary and a few others knocking on the door.
 
Like it way better than Eichel.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 03:21 PM
			
			
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			What would be the equivalent package from the Flames that Trochek got?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 03:22 PM
			
			
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				That looks pretty confusing. I think if Hertl came in Monahan would be leaving. 
			
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It would have to be a three way deal, because I don’t see San José accepting Monahan in return. 
 
I was just doing a lineup with Hertl hypothetically there, maybe at 50% retention. But I guess if we were to pony up for an in-division two way star center, it’s probably going to only cost slightly less than eichel when all is said and done. 
 
Where would Monahan get moved? Montreal? San José takes retention from Monahan so the Habs can fit him in?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 03:24 PM
			
			
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				I like Eichel, but I would be more intrigued with Hertl on this team. I think he would be Sutter’s favorite player. Having him and Lindholm down the middle would be terrifying for the opposing team. Both are two-way puck hounds. 
			
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			08-31-2021, 03:29 PM
			
			
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			08-31-2021, 03:41 PM
			
			
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Hertl plays best at centre IMO.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 03:51 PM
			
			
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				What would be the equivalent package from the Flames that Trochek got? 
			
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I am not sure it would be much more than Dube and a few B-ish prospects (Petterson? Emil?).  I thought the Panthers were hosed on that one.
 
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			08-31-2021, 04:06 PM
			
			
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Gaudreau - Hertl+Eichel - no one
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-31-2021, 04:28 PM
			
			
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