Friedman: Flames have begun extension talks with Gaudreau & Eichel speculation

[Buff]

Originally Posted by bzoo02

https://twitter.com/HockeyyInsiderr/...824986633?s=19

I know it's Insiderr, but some info none the less.

A trade could happen at any given time, but it could also be delayed.

The next trade we hear about could be Eichel. However, somebody else may be traded first.

[bzoo02]

Originally Posted by Buff

A trade could happen at any given time, but it could also be delayed.

I know, real insightful stuff.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by bzoo02

https://twitter.com/HockeyyInsiderr/...824986633?s=19

I know it's Insiderr, but some info nonetheless.

Kind of a strange tweet. So what’s the chance he’s traded within the next two days? Is this supposed to suggest that the trade will be done within the next few days or is it a 50% he’s traded today and if it doesn’t happen, it’s not happening for a while?


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[AC]

He's either traded or he isn't traded, thus 50%.

Simple math, really.

[Major Major]

I don't think Adams has really thought this one through. It's clear that they are not ready to assume the risk of his surgery, but that they want other teams to do so at full freight. Fine, ask for the moon then. But he's also tossed out the obvious deadlines to make this ask possible. First and foremost, the deadline of having him available to his new team for game 1 of the season. That deadline passed about a month ago. The second deadline was the draft since this is when teams had their fullest arsenal of assets. Yes, the assets still exist, but there is no way Mactavish is worth a 3rd overall to Buffalo right now. Quite possible they didn't have Coronado as high either, for example. Then the third deadline was yesterday when teams hadn't blown their wads.

With each of those 3 deadlines, Eichel is going down in value. Teams have drafted their guys, brought in new guys, spent their money and have less desire for a guy who needs a neck surgery and will miss a month or 2 of the season. Adams just chose the, hold out for your price no matter what route and it is going to burn him.

[Monahammer]

Putting this out there, but I will be one of many who would immediately buy a shiny new Eichel blasty jersey to help soothe the owners in their big spend

[bzoo02]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Putting this out there, but I will be one of many who would immediately buy a shiny new Eichel blasty jersey to help soothe the owners in their big spend

Anyone know if they're running Blastys (Blasties?) as 3rds again this year?

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by AC

He's either traded or he isn't traded, thus 50%.

Simple math, really.

It's more simple than that - if he's traded it's 100% traded. Otherwise, he's still 100% he's NOT traded. Simple. The player can't be 50-50 when he's under contract with the original team. It's not like flipping a coin.

[AC]

Originally Posted by bzoo02

Anyone know if they're running Blastys (Blasties?) as 3rds again this year?

They're not.

We're just wearing the retro whites and retro reds this year, no black C or blasty jerseys.

Good chance they bring back Blasty again in the coming seasons though.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Teroy

If we get Eichel and extend Gaudreau I wonder which one will go into the corner to dig out the puck. Eichel,,,,,,,,,,to set up Gaudreau? I doubt that and we already know the opposite won't happen. Oh, maybe the puck will never get to the corner!

How do you think the line has handled it in the past? Johnny? Mony?

You are trying to establish a problem that doesn't exist.

There are tons of great options for a RW for them:

Coleman
Tkachuk
Lindholm
Mangiapane
Dube

I would want to balance 2 lines, so something like:

Gaudreau - Eichel - Coleman
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Mangiapane (if Monahan went the other way)

[FanIn80]

After watching the EIchel video posted earlier, I don't think Johnny would be a good match for him. They both need the puck on their stick as they're both play drivers.

Tkachuk Eichel Mangiapane
Gaudreau Monahan Lindholm

I think reuniting that second line would actually work again, now that opponents have to actually make decisions on who to defend against. Instead of teams being able to focus their shutdown efforts on one guy (Johnny) on one line (Johnny's line), now the'd have to focus on shutting down Eichel on Eichel's line OR Johnny on Johnny's line (which then frees up the other one).

Then a third line of Lucic Someone Coleman able to put up points as well.

(Obviously, in my world, Backlund is the one moved out for picks and cap space)

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by AC

They're not.

We're just wearing the retro whites and retro reds this year, no black C or blasty jerseys.

Good chance they bring back Blasty again in the coming seasons though.

I don't even mind the loss of Blasty for a year as long as he took the black C jerseys with him!

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

After watching the EIchel video posted earlier, I don't think Johnny would be a good match for him. They both need the puck on their stick as they're both play drivers.

Tkachuk Eichel Mangiapane
Gaudreau Monahan Lindholm

I think reuniting that second line would actually work again, now that opponents have to actually make decisions on who to defend against. Instead of teams being able to focus their shutdown efforts on one guy (Johnny) on one line (Johnny's line), now the'd have to focus on shutting down Eichel on Eichel's line OR Johnny on Johnny's line (which then frees up the other one).

Then a third line of Lucic Someone Coleman able to put up points as well.

(Obviously, in my world, Backlund is the one moved out for picks and cap space)

Not sure if Dube is moved in your scenario but I could see him getting a look up the middle if the Flames move on from a center

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Not sure if Dube is moved in your scenario but I could see him getting a look up the middle if the Flames move on from a center

Right, I forgot about that.

Lucic Dube Coleman as a third line seems pretty good.

[Mattman]

Unless we sell the farm I don't think the Flames can keep all of Tkachuk, Monahan, Gaudreau, and Mang if Eichel comes over.

Crazy because they could in theory, but this team is so perfectly mediocre that it's either a rebuild or a couple pieces from being great.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

After watching the EIchel video posted earlier, I don't think Johnny would be a good match for him. They both need the puck on their stick as they're both play drivers.

Gaudreau played on a line with Jack Eichel at the 2016 WCH. They seemed just fine together.

[FanIn80]

Question: How does LITR work in Buffalo's situation? They're $7,966,667 under the floor right now, with Eichel's $10m on LITR. Does that mean as soon as they trade him, they go to $2,033,333 above the floor, or is there only a % of Eichel's LITR hit subtracted from their cap?

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by Mattman

Unless we sell the farm I don't think the Flames can keep all of Tkachuk, Monahan, Gaudreau, and Mang if Eichel comes over.

Crazy because they could in theory, but this team is so perfectly mediocre that it's either a rebuild or a couple pieces from being great.

Nope. Monahan has to go as part of the deal. Maybe thru a 3rd party.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Gaudreau played on a line with Jack Eichel at the 2016 WCH. They seemed just fine together.

Fair, but it just seems weird... like having Nash as Kobe's () PG

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Question: How does LITR work in Buffalo's situation? They're $7,966,667 under the floor right now, with Eichel's $10m on LITR. Does that mean as soon as they trade him, they go to $2,033,333 above the floor, or is there only a % of Eichel's LITR hit subtracted from their cap?

I thought LTIR only kicks in when you're over the cap.