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Old 07-28-2021, 12:53 PM   #981
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We were bad enough this year with Gio to potentially pick in the top 3 of the draft.
A full year with Sutter at the helm and a healthy Markstrom is definitely going to give the Flames a different look—one that will have them well outside of the bottom-quarter of the League.
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Since Gaudreau has now already submitted his five-team trade list I think there is almost no chance he does not sign an extension this year.
There's a chance that he's asked to modify or waive his NTC for x team at the deadline. It's not unheard of.

There's even a chance Treliving pulls a Brodie and lets Gaudreau walk for nothing.
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:55 PM   #983
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Sabres won’t let him get that surgery which is why he hasn’t.
...because he will be out for the year.

It makes no sense why the Sabres would block a surgery that would only keep him out 3 months
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There's a chance that he's asked to modify or waive his NTC for x team at the deadline. It's not unheard of.

There's even a chance Treliving pulls a Brodie and lets Gaudreau walk for nothing.
I guess there is always a chance, but based on everything we have herd to this point it sure sounds like Gaudreau is staying in Calgary.
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:57 PM   #985
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Just because he has a NTC doesn't mean he isn't willing to go to some of the teams he has blocked.

I Personally think Johnny is gone.
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C'mon now! Jack's favourite colour is RED!



...also it's not even Jack Eichel. It's John Robert Eichel.

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You would have to think if your Buffalo now is the time to maximize your return for Eichel. Certainly one would think today/tomorrow would bring the most suitors

Agreed, a couple of teams dropped out today based on the UFA signings and trades. With more UFA's going off the board, GMs aren't going to wait around for the back and forth.
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...because he will be out for the year.

It makes no sense why the Sabres would block a surgery that would only keep him out 3 months
It's because the surgery Eichel wants is different from the typical fusion surgery and hasn't been done on an NHL player before.
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It's because the surgery Eichel wants is different from the typical fusion surgery and hasn't been done on an NHL player before.
If it can be done on high impact athlete's in a high impact sport like MMA, It can be completed on a NHL Player.
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The more we keep adding free agents for half a decade, the more I'm coming to understand a rebuild is not coming anytime soon. If we'd held the line and not added (and appear to be adding more) veterans with pedigree, I think there's a chance this could have trended in the direction of the Flames being a lottery team next year. But, not the case, and I think it's destined to be in the 8-10 conference range short of a significant core shakeup.

So, injured or not, that puts me in camp Eichel. Go for it, futures be damned.
I agree. I think The Islanders success the last few years validated their current mindset right or wrong. Flames still need a Barzal or Eichel type to make this work though and a D man that can provide some sort of offence.
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Sorry I might have missed this, but which teams have dropped out on Eichel and why do we think that's the case?
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...because he will be out for the year.

It makes no sense why the Sabres would block a surgery that would only keep him out 3 months
I will do the research for you. Hopefully you can read the Athletic

https://theathletic.com/news/sabres-...pcsmhyZX?amp=1

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Weighing surgery vs. rehab
Virginia Zakas, Inside Injuries: Eichel believed surgery was in his best interest, yet it didn’t happen. I have to agree with the player here. A herniated disk can lead to significant neurological compromise and pain that radiates down the arm. Weakness is also a common problem as the damaged disk is hitting up against the nerve.

One surgical option is to replace the disk with an artificial one. This is a quick and simple procedure with a recovery time of 2-3 months. Rehabbing and delaying surgery risks a more serious injury that could lead to fusion surgery. That would come with more long-term complications and a longer recovery time. Even if Eichel’s injury doesn’t get worse next season, it could still bother him enough that it hurts his performance.
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If it can be done on high impact athlete's in a high impact sport like MMA, It can be completed on a NHL Player.
The sample size is small though.
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Full on troll here!!! I had to log back in. I’m sick and tired of the C of Red Becoming this S### show! Fully Disappointed! The in fighting. The Juvenile comments! We have become Greaser fans??? Seriously?
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Sorry I might have missed this, but which teams have dropped out on Eichel and why do we think that's the case?
Per Friedman teams go in and out with interest. They talk and then get cold feet about the price and then wait and then call Kevyn Adams again. Today maybe changes things for teams that committed big salary and term to UFAs.
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Full on troll here!!! I had to log back in. I’m sick and tired of the C of Red Becoming this S### show! Fully Disappointed! The in fighting. The Juvenile comments! We have become Greaser fans??? Seriously?
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I will do the research for you. Hopefully you can read the Athletic

https://theathletic.com/news/sabres-...pcsmhyZX?amp=1

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Weighing surgery vs. rehab
Virginia Zakas, Inside Injuries: Eichel believed surgery was in his best interest, yet it didn’t happen. I have to agree with the player here. A herniated disk can lead to significant neurological compromise and pain that radiates down the arm. Weakness is also a common problem as the damaged disk is hitting up against the nerve.

One surgical option is to replace the disk with an artificial one. This is a quick and simple procedure with a recovery time of 2-3 months. Rehabbing and delaying surgery risks a more serious injury that could lead to fusion surgery. That would come with more long-term complications and a longer recovery time. Even if Eichel’s injury doesn’t get worse next season, it could still bother him enough that it hurts his performance.
So if he has the surgery now, best case, he's out 2-3 months. Surgery has never been done on an NHL player before, so this is assuming there are no issues.

If he waits, he could play this season, but the pain could limit his performance. At the same time, the longer he holds off this surgery, the more likely he will require an even more invasive procedure.

I think it's pretty easy to see why a deal hasn't been completed yet. These are massive question marks when you're trading the farm for him.
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The sample size is small though.
Sample size is always small for a "non traditional surgery" until it becomes the "norm". Neck Fusion is old school.
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I don't even give a crap anymore if it's actually a good long term trade for the Flames. I want that adrenaline rush of hearing about a massive deal and being absolutely hyped about it from at least today until October. inject into my veins NOW, do not care about the consequences for tomorrow!
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Full on troll here!!! I had to log back in. I’m sick and tired of the C of Red Becoming this S### show! Fully Disappointed! The in fighting. The Juvenile comments! We have become Greaser fans??? Seriously?
You're too late we're past the infighting and it's turned into our love Pitlick.

Bradley has healed us with a meager 4th round pick.
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