2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[bluejays]

I'm in favour of a Hyman signing, but why would anyone want to build from free agency? It's a recipe for overpayment and long straddled contracts. Hyman is underrated as a two way player. Really good for the second line. Don't overpay in price or term.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

I can’t see Tarasenko as the main piece in a Tkatchuk trade. It would be an awful return.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

I can’t see Tarasenko as the main piece in a Tkatchuk trade. It would be an awful return.

Yeah, Kyrou would be the "long term" piece there.

Not sure I'd like it either to be honest. Just trying not to be a homer.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Icon

I like it, my only gripe would be lack of opportunity for some youth barring injury. I'd rather just skip the Hyman signing if we're adding Landeskog, Tarasenko and Kyrou/Thomas and add on D (Oleksiak?) and give the rookies a spot to fight for.

Not enough for Tkachuk. Now if both Kyrou and Thomas are included and Tarasenko's medical report indicates a full recovery then I am interested.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Signing guys like Landeskog and Hyman make the team better immediately IMO, problem is those contracts are more than likely poison pills the last few years.

They are also both Sutter type players too, 200 foot players who give it their all.

If you win a Cup you aren't going to care as much if those contract hurt you in 2026-2028 either. If you don't win a Cup though, you become the Sharks I guess.

Maybe silly season is getting the better of me, but if the Flames aren't going to tear it down (which they aren't) maybe you go hard for those two, and if you get them spend the rest of the summer trying to move Tkachuk and maybe even Johnny too if he won't sign an extension.

Tkachuk for Tarasenko and Kyrou or Thomas

Or you could keep Chucky and have him play RW I guess.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Tarasenko
Landeskog - Lindholm - Hyman
Mangiapane - Backlund - Kyrou
M. Lucic - D. Dube - Ritchie

Hanifin - Tanev
Edler - Andersson
Valimaki - Mackey

Markstrom
Backup


D's a little scary, but that's really good forward group.

Try to get a cheap vet to help with the overall youth of the D, someone like Edler should come fairly cheap. Other names like McCabe, Oleksiak, Vatanen, Benn etc.

You could get a first in that Tkachuk deal but I like the idea and IMO you shouldn’t be afraid to be the sharks someday because when you are so bad it’s obvious you need to do one thing and that one thing is what we all want to do even though we aren’t that bad is it really bad?

Plus we won’t be Sharks bad because the contracts will be shorter term by then. Sharks issues are years remaining on their guys contracts not just their age.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Not enough for Tkachuk. Now if both Kyrou and Thomas are included and Tarasenko's medical report indicates a full recovery then I am interested.

That'd be great and all, but I just don't think they'd get three of STL's top 9 forwards for Tkachuk, especially when two of them are under 23 and controlled.

Tarasenko, Kyrou OR Thomas and Dunn might be possible, but who knows.

I think I'd be OK with that as long as Tarasenko is healthy, as you said, and Tkachuk doesn't seem all that interested in an extension after July 28th.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You have no idea along with the rest of us what the price for Eichel will be. I think people will be surprised when the deal is made who think he is going to fetch a monster return. I think the offer you just poo pooed is pretty close.

Noted

[Roof-Daddy]

Boring night shift.

I'm a proponent of the Flames making big changes myself, but here is an AGM with minimal changes to take another crack at it with Sutter at the helm...

ED selection -> Giordano

UFA signing -> Landeskog - 7 years x $7,000,000 AAV (get the Swedes to band together and sell him if he makes UFA)
UFA signing -> Martinez - 3 years x $4,000,000 AAV (other options Oleksiak/Barrie/Suter/etc)
UFA signing -> Raanta - 1 year x $1,500,000 (or similar goalie)
UFA signing -> Johansson - 1 year x $1,500,000 (or similar player)
UFA signing -> Rodrigues - 1 year x $1,000,000 (or similar player)
UFA signing -> Stone - 1 year x $750,000 (or similar player)

RFA signing -> Dube - 1 year x $950,000
RFA signing -> Valimaki - 1 year x $950,000
RFA signing -> Mackey - 1 year $850,000
RFA signing -> Gawdin - 1 year $750,000
RFA signing -> Phillips - 1 year $750,000


Roster:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Tkachuk
Landeskog - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Dillon Dube - Backlund - Rodrigues
Milan Lucic - Johansson - Ritchie

Gawdin - Phillips

Hanifin - Tanev
Martinez - Andersson
Valimaki - Stone

Mackey

Markstrom
Raanta

$1,100,000 cap space


Meh lol

I don't see a scenario where Treliving makes zero trades but whatever

[sureLoss]

per Strickland the teams that Landeskog would be interested in

https://twitter.com/user/status/1416038684403638278

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

per Strickland the teams that Landeskog would be interested in

https://twitter.com/user/status/1416038684403638278

then I will gladly take Nylander for a 2nd and 3rd pick to help the Leafs make room for him.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

per Strickland the teams that Landeskog would be interested in

https://twitter.com/user/status/1416038684403638278

So a cup contender and not a struggling team then? hmm, ####ty.

[sureLoss]

Landeskog won't come cheap

https://twitter.com/user/status/1416040946517561346

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Landeskog won't come cheap

https://twitter.com/user/status/1416040946517561346

Yikes! That’s way too much. Will be shocked if anyone pays him that with the flat cap.


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[1qqaaz]

The cap doesn't exist in Tampa, Toronto and Vegas.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Yikes! That’s way too much. Will be shocked if anyone pays him that with the flat cap.


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If Hyman is getting $6 mil per with max term offers, not a stretch to give Landeskog that much.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

The cap doesn't exist in Tampa, Toronto and Vegas.

I'm curious if the leafs are realizing that Marner, though a tremendous talent, is still overpaid for what he brings, especially outside the regular season.

I wonder if they'd prefer to use that money on a more gritty top 6 winger than on a high-skill, smaller/softer guy like marner?

A guy like Landeskog, hmm, Tkachuk???, would really round out that top 6 in my opinion.

[1qqaaz]

Schwartz's point per game in the last 5 seasons: 0.71
Landeskog's point per game in the last 5 seasons: 0.84

Intangibles, size, durability and all, I'm not sure Landeskog is worth the extra 4+ mill per season and the 3 or so extra years of term.

Looks like Landeskog wants to win while getting paid. Can't blame him.

Originally Posted by bubbsy

I'm curious if they are realizing that Marner, though a tremendous talent, is still overpaid for what he brings, especially outside the regular season.

I wonder if they'd prefer to use that money on a more gritty top 6 winger than on a high-skill, smaller/softer guy like marner?

A guy like Landeskog, hmm, Tkachuk???, would really round out that top 6 in my opinion.

I think Toronto likes Landeskog's playoff performances. He's excellent there. Especially when compared to Marner. So it makes you wonder what their plans with Marner are.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Idk if people here don’t think NRD is credible, but the Kuemper talks are getting hot apparently:

@NHLRumorsDaily
I don’t know about “a lot” of deals but the Kuemper market is hot right now. We’ve heard about the #LeafsForever and #GoAvsGo, but I’ve been told that the #NJDevils sent out feelers, the #LetsGoPens checked in, and of course the #SeaKraken are looming. #Sabres need a goalie too.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Idk if people here don’t think NRD is credible, but the Kuemper talks are getting hot apparently:

@NHLRumorsDaily
I don’t know about “a lot” of deals but the Kuemper market is hot right now. We’ve heard about the #LeafsForever and #GoAvsGo, but I’ve been told that the #NJDevils sent out feelers, the #LetsGoPens checked in, and of course the #SeaKraken are looming. #Sabres need a goalie too.

This guy seems legit if you follow the twitter

[Toonage]

I believe it. Kuemper being shopped has been reported by several other notable sources too. Seravalli mentioned the Avs & Leafs as front runners yesterday.