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			DK wasn't the problem with the 'Hawks D last year, and has been saddled with some pretty bad, inexperienced, partners on D.   Is he still a top flight D-Man at his age?  No, but he is not a huge liability either.   His mobility is still good, and he never was all that physical a presence on D.   I wouldn't say that he is completely done, as his game was more cerebral anyway, and would be still serviceable as a lower pairing guy. 
 
 I could see Seattle as a landing spot, but, in truth, I don't see the 'Hawks as having a ready replacement for his minutes.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-30-2021, 09:18 PM
			
			
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			Lucic for Keith, who says no (other than probably Lucic)? 
 
 
Keith more likely to retire in 1 year (1.5M last year vs. 4M due to ML)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-30-2021, 09:56 PM
			
			
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			I wouldn’t be surprised if it was greaserville. Already minister of propaganda stauffer and jimmy “I used to know hockey” Matheson are preparing the unwashed for the impending arrival. Plus, Mavi needs someone else to have the catchy leadership jingles going forward.  
 
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			06-30-2021, 10:49 PM
			
			
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				Lucic for Keith, who says no (other than probably Lucic)? 
 
 
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Chicago easily.
 
Chicago doesn’t have to save cap.  If they retain, it’s to get a better return.  This isn’t a cap dump move.
 
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			06-30-2021, 11:11 PM
			
			
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well I hope so. probably worth pointing out , while Chelios was a beast who logged a ton of playoff minutes at 40, that was on a team with 9 Hall of Famers (plus Datsyuk) on it
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-30-2021, 11:37 PM
			
			
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You heard it here folks, the GM of the Canucks has spoken. Cross Vancouver off the list.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-01-2021, 01:02 AM
			
			
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				You heard it here folks, the GM of the Canucks has spoken. Cross Vancouver off the list. 
			
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So you legitimately think that there is a chance that the Canucks are going to bring the Sedins in and then trade for a guy that altered one's career for the worse with one of the dirtiest elbows in recent memory?
 
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			07-01-2021, 01:31 AM
			
			
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			I hate to say it but I think that this is a perfect acquisition for Aquilini who seems to be cash poor right now. Essentially pay a little amount of money to get a player with a big cap hit... I can see the appeal behind it for a #### owner more concerned about the bottom line.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-01-2021, 01:47 AM
			
			
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				So you legitimately think that there is a chance that the Canucks are going to bring the Sedins in and then trade for a guy that altered one's career for the worse with one of the dirtiest elbows in recent memory? 
 
 
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Wait, you're basing this on a hockey play that happened nearly 10 years ago? I highly doubt the Sedins are that petty. If they are going to spend their managerial careers avoiding signing or trading for every player that ever hit them then they're going to have to wait another 15 years for all of them to retire because they'll never be able to ice a team.
 
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				So you legitimately think that there is a chance that the Canucks are going to bring the Sedins in and then trade for a guy that altered one's career for the worse with one of the dirtiest elbows in recent memory? 
 
 
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“Remember that time you elbowed me with one of the dirtiest elbows of all time? Man that was one heck of an elbow.” “Remember that time you elbowed him with one of the dirtiest elbows of all time? Man that was one heck of an elbow.”
 
“Hmmm, not sure I remember specifically, I do it a lot. Why?”
 
“You still got it? Would you do it again to one of those whiny Oilers?” 
“You still got it? Would you do it again to one of those whiny Oilers?”
 
“Don’t see why not.”
 
“Ok, we’d like you to come play for the Canucks.” 
“Ok, we’d like you to come play for the Canucks.”
 
“Don’t say anything yet though cause Benning doesn’t know we’re making trades.” 
“Don’t say anything yet though cause Benning doesn’t know we’re making trades.”
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				So you legitimately think that there is a chance that the Canucks are going to bring the Sedins in and then trade for a guy that altered one's career for the worse with one of the dirtiest elbows in recent memory? 
 
 
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This makes me hope it is Vancouver so badly now!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-01-2021, 08:45 AM
			
			
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			I’d be in for it if we could get him dirt cheap. I like Keith. Really the only appeal would be to get a Keith jersey. Hockey wise I don’t really think he’d do much for us. Kind of like a Jagr situation but significantly less cool.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Our defensive corps' fancy stats last year: 
 
Gio: EV CF% 53.8 EV Fen 54.5% PDO 100.5 
 
Tanev: EV CF% 55% (!) EV Fen 56.5% PDO 101.4 
 
Hanifin: EV CF% 52.0 EV Fen 51.6% PDO 98.5 
 
Andersson: EV CF% 49.9% EV Fen 48.5% PDO 98.5 
 
Valimaki: EV CF% 54.1% EV Fen 52.9% PDO 99.5 
 
Stone: EV CF% 54.3% EV Fen 53.5% PDO 98.6 
 
Nestorov: EV CF% 51.7% EV Fen 50.8% PDO 97 
 
Kylington: EV CF% 54.7% EV Fen 51.1% PDO 99.3 
 
Duncan Keith: EV CF% 45.1% EV Fen 43.8% PDO 89.0 
 
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I didn't realize our blue line were ####ing advanced stats rockstars.
 
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			07-01-2021, 09:15 AM
			
			
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			Having a 3-time cup winner and 2-time Norris winner would probably be good for the culture of the team. 
 
But I think the Flames need a PP defenseman. Keith had 15 points in 54 games. He isn't that. At least not anymore.  
 
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			07-01-2021, 09:22 AM
			
			
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Why though? He has nothing left to win and has destroyed his body during his long career of busting his ass. I don’t see how guys like this help a team get over the hump.
 
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			This morning on NHL radio, Friedman said he thinks its Seattle and that Keith would make a great 1st captain for the Kraken
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Seattle makes a ton of sense for Keith
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-01-2021, 10:55 AM
			
			
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			If Seattle picks up Keith I doubt they take Gio.  
 
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			07-01-2021, 10:58 AM
			
			
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Yes, like they do in advance of pushing a coach or Gm out the door, any news they think is positive, or has potential to be positive Lowe can't resist to keep his mouth shut. He wants and needs to leak it through to his media disciples.
 
"Multiple Stanley Cup winner" or some reference to Stanley Cups (in this case flashing back to Chelios 22 years ago as a big stretch) has to be part of any dissertation so Oiler fans know that Lowe will continue to bring a culture of winning to the Oilers.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-01-2021, 11:02 AM
			
			
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			Keith - Gio top pairing for Seattle. Not bad.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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