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					Originally Posted by  Lanny'sDaMan
					 
				 
				If we are talking Robert who calls in to the Fan, no he is not. He's a near 70 year old man who is terrified of computers as he sees them as an insturment of the antichrist. No I am not joking. How do I know this about him? Cause.. le sigh.. he's my dear ole dads. 
			
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Your dads call last night summarized my feelings about this team to a T! i was just sitting there nodding along, i love his passion. Its the only form of passion in this entire organization outside of the fans.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 12:42 PM
			
			
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				Did you forget, they scored 1 goal in 5 of the last 6 games 
 
There were no moments last night that could change for them to win unless rittich had a shutout 
			
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I thought they were outplaying the Sens up until the Sens first goal.  Then when Lucic scored I figured they were looking good until Lucic caused a goal against.  There were planets of times they had lots of zone time, but no effort to go to the net, and those were when they could have changed the game.  
 
Ottawa has given up plenty of leads this year.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 12:44 PM
			
			
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				Where did Monahan say there is an effort issue? 
			
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960 after the game.  I don’t know if he said the word effort, but the jist was the players have to be better, look in the mirror, work harder.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 12:46 PM
			
			
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			All it was was standard player-speak and platitudes 
 
He didn't call anyone out, or anything like that
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 12:47 PM
			
			
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				960 after the game.  I don’t know if he said the word effort, but the jist was the players have to be better, look in the mirror, work harder. 
			
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Glad that you can still give them a benefit of the doubt 
 
Not me, I have seen enough. I can accept one or two times not the whole month of sucking
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 12:48 PM
			
			
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			I absolutely love, Robert's passion for this team 
 
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			02-26-2021, 12:52 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  N-E-B
					 
				 
				Why would you sit Lucic? The Flames have 8 goals in their last 6 games and he has 2 of them. Literally a quarter of the teams goals. He also is one of like 4 guys that gives it his all every shift. I’d sit Monahan well before Lucic at this point. It’s that bad right now. 
			
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			02-26-2021, 12:52 PM
			
			
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				Glad that you can still give them a benefit of the doubt  
 
 
Not me, I have seen enough. I can accept one or two times not the whole month of sucking 
			
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I’m just saying what he said.  I’m glad he said it, but I’m not saying it’s gonna happen.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 12:54 PM
			
			
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				960 after the game.  I don’t know if he said the word effort, but the jist was the players have to be better, look in the mirror, work harder. 
			
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He just need to watch the replay of the TO’s OT goal 
No mirror needed
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 01:03 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Lanny'sDaMan
					 
				 
				If we are talking Robert who calls in to the Fan, no he is not. He's a near 70 year old man who is terrified of computers as he sees them as an insturment of the antichrist. No I am not joking. How do I know this about him? Cause.. le sigh.. he's my dear ole dads. 
			
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You have a cool dad. His rant last night was epic! The man could rally armies with that kind of passion. 
 
And to be fair he might not be wrong about the computers. Social media is essentially a human hamster wheel that kills hours of your life and monitors you for a profit.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 01:07 PM
			
			
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				I thought they were outplaying the Sens up until the Sens first goal.  Then when Lucic scored I figured they were looking good until Lucic caused a goal against.  There were planets of times they had lots of zone time, but no effort to go to the net, and those were when they could have changed the game.   
 
Ottawa has given up plenty of leads this year. 
			
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I thought the Lucic turnovers were more about bad luck and a bad assumption than poor plays.
 
Both were pucks chipped right to Calgary players.
 
The first one hits a skate of a Calgary player and turns over. 
The second one goes right to two Calgary players (Backlund and Dube) who both assume the pucks coming out and don't provide any support at all on the turnover.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 01:12 PM
			
			
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			You don't blindly chip the puck into the center of the ice in your own zone...ever.  Lucic has done it countless times and cost the team.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-26-2021, 01:22 PM
			
			
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				You don't blindly chip the puck into the center of the ice in your own zone...ever. 
			
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Sure you do.   It's an effective breakout play in most cases because a defenseman or center will typically receive the pass and skate the puck out of trouble.
 
The issue isn't that you "never" make this sort of breakout. And it's not as blind as you're making it sound.
 
The issue is that the Flames "only" make this sort of breakout, and opponents have scouted it ad nauseum to the point where they're reading this play before it happens.
 
They're playing like robots out there and it's predictable.
 
Someone needs to tell a guy like Noah Hanifin to just skate every puck he has possession of out for a game, even if he's behind the net when he gets possession, even if it leads to a turnover.  Just add variety to your breakout, so it's not just passes being picked off predictably.  Then suddenly that lucic play doesn't happen with the same frequency when you  need to make that breakout play.
 
The fact that the one guy on this team who would actually do exactly what I described was a healthy scratch last night is what frustrates me the most.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-26-2021, 01:33 PM
			
			
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			Yeah every team does it on break outs ... every game. 
 
Lucic has made mistakes, they all do ... but those two turnovers are more on the receiving players than the guy chipping the puck to the middle. 
 
The first one was a bad bounce off a skate ... but Backlund and Dube both blowing the zone with an assumption of possession was the issue on the second goal.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 01:37 PM
			
			
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				I thought the Lucic turnovers were more about bad luck and a bad assumption than poor plays. 
 
Both were pucks chipped right to Calgary players. 
 
The first one hits a skate of a Calgary player and turns over. 
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It is incredible how the mishandles bad bounces are all ending up in the net.  I know that is a cliche but so many of these are goals and how many have been when CGY is having a response to just kill any good vibes?  Like this is crazy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 01:40 PM
			
			
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			At this stage, there is literally no value in speaking to players post game. None at all. They don’t provide insight, they lie, and they make themselves and the organization look foolish and a bit detached from reality. 
 
I don’t expect them to say “we suck”. But they could say things more useful or insightful than “we have to be better”. Yes thanks vaguespeak. You have to put in more effort, we know, what we want to know and what the media is too afraid to ask because it’ll cost them their jobs, is why aren’t you doing it?  
 
One thing to say. Another to do. Action needed. It’s been 5 years. You either want it or you don’t. This group doesn’t. Their actions have in fact been larger than their words. There is no point at all listening to them anymore.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 01:51 PM
			
			
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				At this stage, there is literally no value in speaking to players post game. None at all. They don’t provide insight, they lie, and they make themselves and the organization look foolish and a bit detached from reality. 
 
I don’t expect them to say “we suck”. But they could say things more useful or insightful than “we have to be better”. Yes thanks vaguespeak. You have to put in more effort, we know, what we want to know and what the media is too afraid to ask because it’ll cost them their jobs, is why aren’t you doing it?  
 
One thing to say. Another to do. Action needed. It’s been 5 years. You either want it or you don’t. This group doesn’t. Their actions have in fact been larger than their words. There is no point at all listening to them anymore. 
			
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I think you're going to be angry for a long time if you think the Calgary Flames are going to be the tip of the spear that ends what seems to be all sport's franchises use of cliches and saying nothing of consequence to the media.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-26-2021, 01:55 PM
			
			
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			In fairness, hockey players really are the worst of the big four for generic comments though.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-26-2021, 02:40 PM
			
			
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