Aside from a handful of films like Guardians, Thor and Iron Man (years ago) I haven't really watched any of the MCU movies. Would this show still be enjoyable or would I need way more information to understand what's going on? A lot of our friends and family are watching this and enjoying it. Thinking about jumping on board but want to make sure we won't be totally lost.
Really with that view history, that amount of time, and access to Disney+, if I were you I would watch Avengers 1 & Winter Soldier.
I'd say you can barebones the franchise down to;
Thor 1
Avengers
Winter Soldier
Dark World
Ultron
Guardians 1
Dr Strange
Civil War
Ragnarok
Infinity War
Wasp
End Game
I wouldn't bother with Wandavision before having seen those 12 in pretty much that order. As an added bonus at least 7/12 of those are substantially more entertaining that.
Captain America and Captain Marvel are outside of the main timeline, and some easter eggs rippling through the other movies, but you won't miss the context. Edit, onsecond thought the Captain Marvel movie is important to Wandavision.
The Ironman series is an oddly stand alone series within the context of the MCU, they build up Ironman as an important character, and they are amoung the better movies, but Downy Jrs strong enough to re-contextualize the character in all the other movies. None of the villains, conflicts from Ironman really trickle into the main storyline they way they have with the other movies.
Unless you need the origin story, Civil War gives you all the intro you need to Antman & Spiderman
Guardians Vol II, I suspect will be important to understanding Guardians III, the Eternals, and probably Love & Thunder / Avengers 5. But I don't think it's vital viewing yet.
The Hulk Movie barely counts as an MCU movie.
Missing Black panther will leave you wondering where a bunch of tertiary characters in other movies came from, but it wont really change your understanding of the main story.
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Yep, full episode of exposition from the writers, not going to be the most entertaining episode. I think the Hex will end, but I don't think we are headed for a clean conclusion to this story. Agatha will soften and we won't be 100% sure that she is the "bad" guy. Hayward is a bastard, but It's not like he'll say hail hydra at the end, Bizzaro Vision will leave us wondering if he is good or bad.
I thought this was the best episode yet and I was going in expecting to be disappointed by some cheesy climax. Lots of great scenes, performances and world building. I didn't care much for wanda or vision going into this, but now I'm considering renewing for another month just for the last episode.
Agatha seems to be curious more than anything, she casually gave wanda her power and freedom back. She might be setting up a final attack, but she's in awe of wanda at this point.
I thought this was the best episode yet and I was going in expecting to be disappointed by some cheesy climax. Lots of great scenes, performances and world building. I didn't care much for wanda or vision going into this, but now I'm considering renewing for another month just for the last episode.
Agatha seems to be curious more than anything, she casually gave wanda her power and freedom back. She might be setting up a final attack, but she's in awe of wanda at this point.
I think this is kind of what aggravates me about this show.
It has a neat idea, and a good premise. Wanda is likable, I could ditch Vision.
There are good bones to this show but it just isnt engaging. Frankly, the ditzy Doctor lady is the best character in the show.
Beyond that, its been a chore to get through. I'm still plowing through because I feel confident that this is a show that needs some time to find its groove and get its feet under it and it will get better.
I wouldnt re-up Disney+ just for this show though. No way.
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I'm still plowing through because I feel confident that this is a show that needs some time to find its groove and get its feet under it and it will get better.
There's only one episode left. If it hasn't drawn you in yet, I don't know if it will ever get there.
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It’s going to be an evil vision for sure, I really hope spader is back as the voice and they leave it ambiguous whether he is Ultron or not.
He won’t be as powerful as vision or ultron as both were created by the mind stone rather than created by someone who was created by the mind stone.
I think how this ends is pretty obvious. I have no for knowledge but have put my speculation in spoilers
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Vision will with Wandas help be absorbed into ultron giving him a permanent body and back to life. Wanda will collapse the Hex to trap Agatha sacrificing her kids in the process who aren’t real. (They don’t appear in the basement, the basement is outside the Hex given the aspect ratio change, and vision was created out of nothing)
We get to see Rambeau, Vision, Wanda vs Agatha, Fietro and evil vision. I’m excited
I doubt we find out anymore about where Fietro came from. They will leave it ambiguous to be ret conned later for dr strange or future x men
I don't know if its Ultron. Wasn't the last of him and his programming destroyed at the end of age of Ultron. Its not Vision because his programming was part of the mind stone. This is something custom created by the jerk in charge of Sword. Think of it as cruise missile programming.
When I thought it was Agnes that was manipulating everything it left Wanda off of the hook, but now she's back on, she created the town and trapped the people, and tortured them.
She's not that much different then Agnes in terms of the magic controlling Agnes to effect though is more curios then wanting more power and more disgusted that someone that was never trained has so much power. Wanda's grief controlled her and has lead her to do a pretty despicable act, remember that these people are in constant pain as Wanda pretty much crushes their personalities and individuality to keep control.
I think we're going to obviously get good vs evil Vision, and illusion Vision could take over Evil Visions body. But I have a feeling that they don't want or need Vision in the next phase of the Avengers movie.
the question for me is, does Monica actually have Superpowers or were they given to her accidentally in the Hex and if she leaves the Hex she loses them.
A big indicator to me of a season two of WandaVision is if Agnes survives, however I have this funny feeling that like the Mandalorian, Disney is going to use the power of the mouse for a epic cameo in the final episode that leads to the Next Doctor Strange movie. So no season two.
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I forgot how pretty Mary Tyler Moore was
Haywood is pure evil, basically showing Wanda her love during a autopsy, I expected her to go primevil, but instead we got this great tragic moment with Wanda when she couldn't feel Vision.
The casting for Agnes has been beautiful. She's more like a scientist at this point pulling wings off of flies, as she wants to know how Wanda has the ability to instinctively do all of these spells at once.
I don't think Haywood is Hydra, but he certainly is running his own agenda on behalf of Sword. He see's Wanda as a real threat to the world I think.
Now that we know that Agnes was controlling Pietro, you look back on that last scene of the last episode and you can hear her words in his voice. I loved that.
The change in Agnes in the end was brilliant, the off the cuff comments and over the top was gone.
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Vision has had a similar white look in the comics and was still a hero.
They are going to put hex Vision into repaired Vision, thereby restricting him.
Ultron never inhabited the vibranium body, so I doubt it.
In Infinity War they specifically talk about how Vision is made up of the Mind Stone, Jarvis, Ultron. In Age of Ultron, Ultron was in the process of trying to upload himself into the body, so it's entirely possible part of him is still in there.
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In the comic world, Ultron comes back a million times. So bringing him back this way would fit and would make a cool big bad. However, I wish they would have done it earlier. We are 8/9th through the series and don't really have a big bad yet. It appears Agatha wasn't even enabling Wanda here, but rather just trying to learn how she did it.
There were moments in the last episode where I thought Hayward was going to be more than meets the eye. When he was hinting to Wanda that she has the power to bring him back, I was thinking that maybe he was Mephisto or something, but it looks like he's not that cool and just a typical flat generic military/government type villain that's trying to turn Vision's body into a weapon.
In Infinity War they specifically talk about how Vision is made up of the Mind Stone, Jarvis, Ultron. In Age of Ultron, Ultron was in the process of trying to upload himself into the body, so it's entirely possible part of him is still in there.
Good catch, had forgotten about that. Vision may have even said something like that in Age of Ultron, if I recall correctly.
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