[PGT] Flames beat Vancouver 4-3 in OVERTIME

[Hackey]

Looch has 3rd most goals and 7th most points on the team. No wonder he's not dropping the gloves anymore.

[-TC-]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Lucic actually has been pretty good this season. I still see people criticizing him but he actually has been pretty effective and usually puts in a decent effort for the most part. I like him and what he brings to the team.

I'm with you, man. Totally agree. He's overpaid but I'm still glad we have him.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Points race in the Neal/Lucic trade, updated:

Neal — 37 in EDM (23 G, 14 A)
Lucic — 33 in CGY (13 G, 20 A)

And anyone that cares to do a longer look will find out that Neal’s points came (a) mostly at the beginning of last season, (b) in runaway games, (c) on easy goals set up by McDavid or Draisaitl. I suspect most are power play. He’s a passenger. Lucic is an equal contributor on his line, plays a 200 foot game, and generally scores hardworking goals.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I’ve been harsh on Ward all season and still hate how passive he has them playing and his bench management at times...

But moving Lindholm to Center has worked brilliantly.

Him and Monahan have 8 and 7 points at 5v5 respectively which places them both in the top 30 among centres.

Having Lindholm, Monahan, Backlund, and Bennett as the 4 centres could be huge in the playoffs, they just need to find a mix that works on RW.

Tkachuk - Lindholm - ???
Gaudreau - Monahan - ???
Mangiapane - Backlund - ???
Lucic - Bennett - Dube

Up to the coaching staff and GM to find pieces that work to fill those three spots. Whether it’s among Ryan, Leivo, Simon, Gawdin, Phillips, Robinson, etc or by making a trade.

I agree and would try:

Tkachuk - Lindholm - Phillips
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ryan
Mangiapane - Backlund - Gawdin
Lucic - Bennett - Dube

Nordstrom needs to go. Put Robinson in for the physical games. Use Leivo and Simon as fillers.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Not sure if posted, but here's Valimaki diving into the bench to avoid a too many men call in the 1st

https://streamable.com/il5dwl

Too funny

This will forever be in a gif and shall be posted when we rob a win from the other team

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I agree and would try:

Tkachuk - Lindholm - Phillips
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ryan
Mangiapane - Backlund - Gawdin
Lucic - Bennett - Dube

Nordstrom needs to go. Put Robinson in for the physical games. Use Leivo and Simon as fillers.

Nordstrom at least provides a useful role. Literally one of the top PK guys in the entire NHL by some metrics. Why people want him out makes no sense. Yeah it would be nice if he could find some offense but he is no different than any of the 4th line fillers in that regard.

The other two? Nothing. Leivo has been a huge disappointment.

Simon played 13 minutes last night....and im not kidding when i say i dont remember him touching the puck more than twice. I was floored when i saw his ice time. A whole lot of nothing from him.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

https://twitter.com/user/status/1361551442771800069

4-11-1 against teams that aren’t Ottawa.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And anyone that cares to do a longer look will find out that Neal’s points came (a) mostly at the beginning of last season, (b) in runaway games, (c) on easy goals set up by McDavid or Draisaitl. I suspect most are power play. He’s a passenger. Lucic is an equal contributor on his line, plays a 200 foot game, and generally scores hardworking goals.

Lucic started out the season slow but has quickly rounded into form recently. Contracts aside, there is no comparison as to who brings more to their respective team when comparing both players. Especially from the Flames' perspective.

Heck Lucic's "shift" last game had more determination and effort than any game Neal ever had here. Not even joking when I say that; that single shift alone was better than any game Neal ever had here.

Very happy with the big man's play recently.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

https://twitter.com/user/status/1361551442771800069

Sorry Paterson you big simp, the snake is set at 66.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Looch has 3rd most goals and 7th most points on the team. No wonder he's not dropping the gloves anymore.

After a rough start he's played well for the most part but this IMO is not a great stat as it means that the Flames aren't getting enough scoring from their top 6. Maybe it's a product of Gaudreau shooting more but Monahan needs to get going in the goals department as I can't remember a season when his stats were so slanted towards assists.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

After a rough start he's played well for the most part but this IMO is not a great stat as it means that the Flames aren't getting enough scoring from their top 6. Maybe it's a product of Gaudreau shooting more but Monahan needs to get going in the goals department as I can't remember a season when his stats were so slanted towards assists.

He’s just snake bit and The biggest issue is his shooting percentage. He still has 35 Shots on Goal which is the same amount as Gaudreau.

But he’s shooting 5.71% which is way off his career average of 15%.

If he’s shooting around his career average he’d have 5-6 goals and this wouldn’t even be a discussion.

We’d probably be talking about how he has 5 goals and 10 assists, was over a PPG, and is producing more this year.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

After a rough start he's played well for the most part but this IMO is not a great stat as it means that the Flames aren't getting enough scoring from their top 6. Maybe it's a product of Gaudreau shooting more but Monahan needs to get going in the goals department as I can't remember a season when his stats were so slanted towards assists.

Mohanan is getting a few grade A chances a game, but is missing that great finish he has shown in past years.

Tkachuk has also struggled outside the PP all year.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Tkachuk has also struggled outside the PP all year.

IMO he's actually not been great on the powerplay of late. He's had stretches in the past where he goes quiet but he's looked pretty bad on a nightly basis. It's like the switch flipped after the Muzzin incident.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Mattman

I don't want it. False hope to our management that this is a good team.

A lot of short-sighted fans that are criticizing this post. He’s right.

Sure, wins are more fun than losses, but you know what else would be fun? Winning a Stanley cup, or even just being in contention. At this point, wins just delay the inevitable. This core has proven time after time they don’t have what it takes.

Last night’s performance wasn’t even inspiring after getting slaughtered Saturday night. In fact they came out completely flat again. What about this team inspires confidence in those of you that are supportive game after game? What do you think a team like Vegas would do to us in a 7-game series? Colorado? Toronto?

We’re not even close. Mattman is completely correct.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

A lot of short-sighted fans that are criticizing this post. He’s right.

Sure, wins are more fun than losses, but you know what else would be fun? Winning a Stanley cup, or even just being in contention. At this point, wins just delay the inevitable. This core has proven time after time they don’t have what it takes.

Last night’s performance wasn’t even inspiring after getting slaughtered Saturday night. In fact they came out completely flat again. What about this team inspires confidence in those of you that are supportive game after game? What do you think a team like Vegas would do to us in a 7-game series? Colorado? Toronto?

We’re not even close. Mattman is completely correct.

I think many of us realize that this is another version of the same Flames team we see year after year spinning its wheels under Treliving but I can't imagine cheering against them. Little doubt the Knights or Avs would crush the Flames in a 7 game series but that still doesn't mean I would take any less enjoyment from watching the Flames win games especially over rival teams. For better or worse this is a team that's going to be in the running for the last playoff spot in the division and given how terrible the division is they may even be able to win their first round matchup. To me that doesn't make for a successful season but it's still a lot better than being the Canucks or Senators.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

A lot of short-sighted fans that are criticizing this post. He’s right.

Sure, wins are more fun than losses, but you know what else would be fun? Winning a Stanley cup, or even just being in contention. At this point, wins just delay the inevitable. This core has proven time after time they don’t have what it takes.

Last night’s performance wasn’t even inspiring after getting slaughtered Saturday night. In fact they came out completely flat again. What about this team inspires confidence in those of you that are supportive game after game? What do you think a team like Vegas would do to us in a 7-game series? Colorado? Toronto?

We’re not even close. Mattman is completely correct.

“Completely correct” in what? What was “correct” about the statement. That it’s false hope? Okay? So, then what?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

He’s just snake bit and The biggest issue is his shooting percentage. He still has 35 Shots on Goal which is the same amount as Gaudreau.

But he’s shooting 5.71% which is way off his career average of 15%.

If he’s shooting around his career average he’d have 5-6 goals and this wouldn’t even be a discussion.

We’d probably be talking about how he has 5 goals and 10 assists, was over a PPG, and is producing more this year.

TBF his assists may be less in that situation. Assuming that a few of those hypothetical goals came on the same powerplay or the even strength play that he assisted on in reality. But I’m with you - he’s getting chances, unlike Tkachuk, who is either a step away from a great chance or in way too tight and just hammering at goalies’ pads.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Friggin Oiler fans... how the heck is a one-time shot from the left circle on the powerplay considered "cherry picking?" Like I know those bozos are a little special up there, but come on... that's a whole other level of stupidity.

Like I said after the last win, I am having trouble even remembering the last time I heard that term besides the ATL. I am assuming the same Coiler fan said it last time too. Funny.

[iloveicedhockey]

Courtesy of Mikepfeil on Twitter (apologies if already posted).

https://twitter.com/mikepfeil_/statu...977091585?s=19

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[CroFlames]

That skate coming down pretty hard in and around Gio's head. Coulda been a big yikes.

Also, that young lady is just trying to present the news to the best of her ability. Do we really need to criticize the size of her bum?