2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Monahammer]

Dwayne Klessel is more connected than the NHLTraderumors dude.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Portzline suggests that Texier is getting a good look at C right now in Columbus and they like what they see. He goes on to infer that having a guy like Texier step up at C would make the idea of trading Dubois for a LW/RW more palatable. Possibly a player like Laine.

You spelled Gaudreau wrong.

[blender]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

This might be a hot take, but I can almost guarantee that Wolf would perform better than Domingue if they were both in the NHL.
This is despite that fact that Wolf is much younger and has no NHL experience.

But obviously, this wouldn't be a great situation. Much better to keep Rittich around. He's the perfect secondary goalie.

That's the hottest of takes!
Certainly wouldn't want to see it tested out!

[1qqaaz]

Yeah it would obviously be a huge disaster to be in that position haha.

I just hope Wolf avoids the AHL as much as possible, since it's where all Flames goalie prospects go to die.
Although I guess Rittich spent time there.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

This might be a hot take, but I can almost guarantee that Wolf would perform better than Domingue if they were both in the NHL.
This is despite that fact that Wolf is much younger and has no NHL experience.

But obviously, this wouldn't be a great situation. Much better to keep Rittich around. He's the perfect secondary goalie.

How in the world can you guarantee this? Wolf is 19...

[1qqaaz]

Obviously the "guarantee" is superlative because it's for a hypothetical disaster scenario. Hot takes are like this. In a vacuum, Wolf is probably a better goalie than Domingue. Right now.

Well out of the top 10 goalies in the NHL, I believe most all of them were starters by 23, and most of them were in the NHL as backups by 20.

Gibson, Vasilevskiy, Price, Hart, Hellebuyck and Lehner were all starters by 23. They all played in the NHL as 20 year olds. Murray won 2 cups by 22. Even Markstrom, Varlamov, Rask and Holtby played in the NHL at around 20 years old.

This is part of the problem with the Flames goalie development. They don't give their young goalies chances. And I realize this kind of goes against common intuition.
There are pretty much no elite goalies who didn't get NHL experience in their early 20s. I'm not saying the Flames should play Wolf now. But I'm saying they should play him sooner rather than later.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Obviously the "guarantee" is superlative because it's for a hypothetical disaster scenario. Hot takes are like this. In a vacuum, Wolf is probably a better goalie than Domingue. Right now.

Well out of the top 10 goalies in the NHL, I believe most all of them were starters by 23, and most of them were in the NHL as backups by 20.

Gibson, Vasilevskiy, Price, Hart, Hellebuyck and Lehner were all starters by 23. They all played in the NHL as 20 year olds. Murray won 2 cups by 22. Even Markstrom, Varlamov, Rask and Holtby played in the NHL at around 20 years old.

This is part of the problem with the Flames goalie development. They don't give their young goalies chances. And I realize this kind of goes against common intuition.
There are pretty much no elite goalies who didn't get NHL experience in their early 20s. I'm not saying the Flames should play Wolf now. But I'm saying they should play him sooner rather than later.

Wolf is likely not a better goalie than Dominique right now. In fact, he may never be. Maybe in a vacuum he is, but he likely isn’t on the ice.

All the goalies you mentioned were high draft picks.

Crawford was a 2nd round pick who had a very few cups of coffee in the NHL before becoming a regular at 26 years of age.


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[Demetric]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Wolf is likely not a better goalie than Dominique right now. In fact, he may never be. Maybe in a vacuum he is, but he likely isn’t on the ice.

All the goalies you mentioned were high draft picks.

Crawford was a 2nd round pick who had a very few cups of coffee in the NHL before becoming a regular at 26 years of age.


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who plays hockey in a vacuum, who can fit into a vacuum?

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Demetric

who plays hockey in a vacuum, who can fit into a vacuum?

This seems like it could be part of the problem with our goalie development. Quit putting these guys in vacuums and let them on the ice!!

[Buff]

This thread is starting to suck.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Buff

This thread is starting to suck.

Short season, flat cap, heavy restrictions on player movement... Yeah this trade rumors thread was always going to suck this season.

[Braden]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Louis Domingue has played a bunch of NHL games

So say Markstrom gets injured in the playoffs like he did last year, you trust Louis Domingue to carry the team? I believe Treliving would like to keep his job

[aaronkarlpatton]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I am 100% on board with the bolded. Which to me is why you target a guy like PLD. The existing core has yet to give us anything to show for it.

I would like PLD, but as a backup plan anyone watch Nolan Patrick this year? His stats are good, but I haven't watched any games.

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[ForeverFlameFan]

How can we convince Patrick Kane to play in Calgary

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Short season, flat cap, heavy restrictions on player movement... Yeah this trade rumors thread was always going to suck this season.

apparently I needed to quote the previous two posts...

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

How can we convince Patrick Kane to play in Calgary

If it’s not PLD, I would ride out the 3 centers we currently have.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Braden

So say Markstrom gets injured in the playoffs like he did last year, you trust Louis Domingue to carry the team? I believe Treliving would like to keep his job

well the rumor proposed a trade that was lopsided in the Flames favor, so if it was actually on the table, you gotta take it IMO.


TBH, I don't trust Dave to win a playoff series either. We brought in Markstrom for a reason.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by MrMike

If it’s not PLD, I would ride out the 3 centers we currently have.

I don’t think PLD is the answer, so I agree at rolling with the centers we have. Calgary can fit the Boston mold and reflect their most dominant line of Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak with Tkachuk - Lindholm and a top end RW. Laine fits the bill but he would cost too much. Maybe Mantha? Just signed a contract, don’t think he’s going anywhere. Patrick Kane? He’s got a high cap hit, but if the Hawks could retain on 10% of it while we give up Lucic, Hanifin, a 1st, and then another significant asset I could see the Hawks at least listening.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I don’t think PLD is the answer, so I agree at rolling with the centers we have. Calgary can fit the Boston mold and reflect their most dominant line of Marchand - Bergeron - Pastrnak with Tkachuk - Lindholm and a top end RW. Laine fits the bill but he would cost too much. Maybe Mantha? Just signed a contract, don’t think he’s going anywhere. Patrick Kane? He’s got a high cap hit, but if the Hawks could retain on 10% of it while we give up Lucic, Hanifin, a 1st, and then another significant asset I could see the Hawks at least listening.

oh boy.....This might be one of the better ones we've seen recently.

[Vinny01]

Kane to the Rangers for Strome, DeAngelo, 1st