01-12-2021, 03:59 PM
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#5581
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanCharles
I don’t think DeAngelo or Strome are part of their long-term plans so I’m sure they would be fine trading them away to get a center like PLD.
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Rich get richer. I hope CLB gets a better offer than that. Strome was a garbage bin pickup just one season ago and DeAngelo has more baggage than a Kardashian family vacation.
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01-12-2021, 04:07 PM
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#5582
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Rich get richer. I hope CLB gets a better offer than that. Strome was a garbage bin pickup just one season ago and DeAngelo has more baggage than a Kardashian family vacation.
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Haha yea I agree but their value is inflated enough that they might get decent value out of them.
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01-12-2021, 05:30 PM
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#5583
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Those morning show guys always...and I mean always grossly exaggerate the "costs" of players available around the league.
I don't think there is even one time they came close to an actual value of a trade that occurred.
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The Morning Show isn't about sports. They aren't there for their knowledge of hockey.
They're there for fart jokes, Rhett's dog, food and not much else.
Its a terrible waste of time on a sports station.
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01-12-2021, 05:38 PM
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#5584
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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How is Strome/DeAngelo anywhere in the same stratosphere as Lindholm or Monahan/Hanifan/1st?
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01-12-2021, 06:21 PM
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#5585
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
How is Strome/DeAngelo anywhere in the same stratosphere as Lindholm or Monahan/Hanifan/1st?
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They aren’t.
Just saying I’m sure that’s what NYR would be pushing as the main NHL level pieces involved.
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01-12-2021, 06:28 PM
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#5586
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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It's surprising that DeAngelo had more points than Dubois in fewer games, despite being a defenseman.
Yet most agree that Dubois is worth quite a bit more.
It just shows that a lot more goes into a team's success than quarterbacking a powerplay. And attitudes matter.
For this same logic, Draisaitl and McDavid are overrated.
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01-12-2021, 06:37 PM
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#5587
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Airdrie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOfan
Yes, Monahan's numbers were better, no arguing that, but PLD hasn't had the good fortune of playing alongside for, at times, one of the leagues elite wingers who drives play and is a premier playmaker.
PLD could very well be a 6'3" version of Sean Monahan who actually plays like he is 6'3" and not 5'8".
it sometimes seems like Monahan plays the game saying things like 'sorry, excuse me coming through, beep beep, hheeyyyy!?!'
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Did PLD not have Panarin on his wing for 2 years ?
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01-12-2021, 07:12 PM
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#5588
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cowtown75
Did PLD not have Panarin on his wing for 2 years ?
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That was clearly all PLD. D'uh.
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01-12-2021, 07:15 PM
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#5589
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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I love how we’re ok to knock Dubois down a peg for playing with Panarin, but not do the same for Monahan with Gaudreau (and Lindholm for that matter).
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01-12-2021, 07:21 PM
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#5590
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Franchise Player
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Most good NHL players play with other good NHL players. For example, if we acquired Dubois he'd probably play with Tkachuk or Gaudreau
Last edited by Geeoff; 01-12-2021 at 07:24 PM.
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01-12-2021, 07:24 PM
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#5591
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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People are still missing the point-it's not about what PLD has done in his career up to this point. It's what he's going to become. If you believe he'll end up being the next Johansen, or the next Seguin-either way, he'll mean more to his team than whatever points he puts up. He's fast, mean, physical, plays a 200-ft game, and drives play.
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01-12-2021, 07:24 PM
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#5592
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Franchise Player
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It is more so that people are discounting PLDs best season was with Panarin and it doesn't matter while Monahan is only good cause of Gaudreau.
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01-12-2021, 07:26 PM
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#5593
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
If you believe he'll end up being the next Johansen, or the next Seguin-either way, he'll mean more to his team than whatever points he puts up. He's fast, mean, physical, plays a 200-ft game, and drives play.
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If PLD tops out as Johansen then Monahan straight across is fair.
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01-12-2021, 07:28 PM
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#5594
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Well, is Mony a ppg player, or a 65 pt C? Looks more like the latter. Who's better-Monahan with 65 points, or PLD with 65 points?
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01-12-2021, 07:32 PM
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#5595
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
If PLD tops out as Johansen then Monahan straight across is fair.
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To be fair, everyone who goes to Nashville gets sucked in to an offensive black hole-Johansen, Turris, Duchene, Granlund....
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01-12-2021, 08:11 PM
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#5596
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
People are still missing the point-it's not about what PLD has done in his career up to this point. It's what he's going to become. If you believe he'll end up being the next Johansen, or the next Seguin-either way, he'll mean more to his team than whatever points he puts up. He's fast, mean, physical, plays a 200-ft game, and drives play.
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Monahan is 0/5 in these areas.
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01-12-2021, 08:13 PM
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#5597
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
Well, is Mony a ppg player, or a 65 pt C? Looks more like the latter. Who's better-Monahan with 65 points, or PLD with 65 points?
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Maybe we will know if/when Dubois hits 65 points
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01-12-2021, 08:17 PM
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#5598
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blender
Maybe we will know if/when Dubois hits 65 points
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C’mon man, he had 61 two years ago.....
When he was 20.
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01-12-2021, 08:20 PM
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#5599
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
C’mon man, he had 61 two years ago.....
When he was 20.
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Exactly, when he was playing with Panarin...
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01-12-2021, 08:22 PM
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#5600
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Exactly, when he was playing with Panarin...
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The argument above was that Mony plays with Gaudreau...
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