In an unsurprising twist, it turns out that the woman who was shot followed a very common path from "normal person" to "Q whackjob" in the last 4-5 years.
Social Media needs to be held accountable for facilitating all of this over the last 4 years. By Facebook's only internal metrics, 64% of people that joined radical ideological groups did so based on Facebook's own recommendation engine.
Social Media needs to be held accountable for facilitating all of this over the last 4 years. By Facebook's only internal metrics, 64% of people that joined radical ideological groups did so based on Facebook's own recommendation engine.
The whole business model of social media is a polarization machine. The algorithms that dredge up contentious and radical content, likes/dislikes, sharing and retweets - all deliberately designed to make us angry, anxious, and divided.
If you had assigned a team of psychologists and sociologists in 1980 a challenge to devise a machine to undermine social trust and civility, they wouldn’t possibly have dreamt up anything so effective as facebook, twitter, or reddit.
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The whole business model of social media is a polarization machine. The algorithms that dredge up contentious and radical content, likes/dislikes, sharing and retweets - all deliberately designed to make us angry, anxious, and divided.
If you had assigned a team of psychologists and sociologists in 1980 a challenge to devise a machine to undermine social trust and civility, they wouldn’t possibly have dreamt up anything so effective as facebook, twitter, or reddit.
Just look at the thanks button on CP, if you started tracking based on key words and ideologies you get the same posters always thanking the same content, same right/left attitudes and same people. Its a perfect case study on group think and it can spiral quite easily.
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The whole business model of social media is a polarization machine. The algorithms that dredge up contentious and radical content, likes/dislikes, sharing and retweets - all deliberately designed to make us angry, anxious, and divided.
If you had assigned a team of psychologists and sociologists in 1980 a challenge to devise a machine to undermine social trust and civility, they wouldn’t possibly have dreamt up anything so effective as facebook, twitter, or reddit.
Absolutely, there is now doubt that these platforms need to be deeply regulated for hate speech and non-factual information. Western societies will continue to tear themselves apart if they are not.
If anyone hasn't watched "The Social Dilemma" it goes into how the social media engines are designed to be addictive and can very deeply misinform from a host of former social media developers and employees. Another good one is "Agents of Chaos" which deep dives into the entire Russian-run social media disinformation operation and how exactly they used the provided corporate tools available to them to cause the deep social problems there are today.
Government stability aside, social media has caused all sorts of mental health issues among children that have grown up with it... like the huge increase in the number of teenage girls who have even more body image issues, self-esteem problems, and suicidal thoughts nowadays because of social media, but one problem at a time. Lets fix the whole country tearing itself apart thing first cuz you can't fix one without the other.
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Where is extremist polarization happening on the left? What are some hugely popular left-wing conspiracies that have absolutely no basis in reality that are being shared on social media? What is the left-wing equivalent of QAnon?
This is not a both sides, many sides issue. A very large swath of conservatives have abandoned any sense of good reason and plunged head-first into extremist crazytown. That's not happening on the left. And no, I don't need to "get out of my liberal echo chamber". On Facebook, I'm friends with people with a variety of political views. Without exception, my liberal friends almost always share news from reputable sources that can be easily fact checked, and in the rare times that they share something that is false (or even only partially true), someone else almost always corrects them in the comments, and the OP admits their mistake for sharing something without checking its validity first. The few extremist conservative friends I have on Facebook live in an entirely different reality from the rest of us where facts simply don't exist. And my moderate conservative friends feel completely alienated and lost. They acknowledge the right-wing movement has been hijacked by lunatics, but they can't bring themselves to vote for a left or centre-left party/candidate.
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Where is extremist polarization happening on the left? What are some hugely popular left-wing conspiracies that have absolutely no basis in reality that are being shared on social media? What is the left-wing equivalent of QAnon?
This is not a both sides, many sides issue. A very large swath of conservatives have abandoned any sense of good reason and plunged head-first into extremist crazytown. That's not happening on the left. And no, I don't need to "get out of my liberal echo chamber". On Facebook, I'm friends with people with a variety of political views. Without exception, my liberal friends almost always share news from reputable sources that can be easily fact checked, and in the rare times that they share something that is false (or even only partially true), someone else almost always corrects them in the comments, and the OP admits their mistake for sharing something without checking its validity first. The few extremist conservative friends I have on Facebook live in an entirely different reality from the rest of us where facts simply don't exist. And my moderate conservative friends feel completely alienated and lost. They acknowledge the right-wing movement has been hijacked by lunatics, but they can't bring themselves to vote for a left or centre-left party/candidate.
I don't necessarily disagree but go read r/onguardforthee. That subreddit is filled with insane left wingers who have a serious victim complex.
So it isn't like those type of left wingers don't exist.
And the worst part is the right does something so egregious, that you end up sounding like a radical conspiracy theorist for just calling it out. Then they just say you too.
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Then people point out the 35 hard core green peace people, or the 50 hard core Antifa people. And act like that is some how in the same world and 70 million people voting for the worst person imaginable. Or thousands of people literally attempting a coup, sans any real goals or objectives, just because it rhetorically interesting for them to imagine themselves over throwing their imagined enemies.
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Where is extremist polarization happening on the left? What are some hugely popular left-wing conspiracies that have absolutely no basis in reality that are being shared on social media? What is the left-wing equivalent of QAnon?
This is not a both sides, many sides issue. A very large swath of conservatives have abandoned any sense of good reason and plunged head-first into extremist crazytown. That's not happening on the left. And no, I don't need to "get out of my liberal echo chamber". On Facebook, I'm friends with people with a variety of political views. Without exception, my liberal friends almost always share news from reputable sources that can be easily fact checked, and in the rare times that they share something that is false (or even only partially true), someone else almost always corrects them in the comments, and the OP admits their mistake for sharing something without checking its validity first. The few extremist conservative friends I have on Facebook live in an entirely different reality from the rest of us where facts simply don't exist. And my moderate conservative friends feel completely alienated and lost. They acknowledge the right-wing movement has been hijacked by lunatics, but they can't bring themselves to vote for a left or centre-left party/candidate.
It comes down to education, always has. The US has failed miserably in this regard for the last few decades, and Trump is the result. Canada on the other hand has one of the best education systems in the world (https://ncee.org/what-we-do/center-o...ing-countries/), so we don't see near the same level of QANON bull#### as down south (I would be interested to see where Alberta ranks though compared to the rest of the country)
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I don't necessarily disagree but go read r/onguardforthee. That subreddit is filled with insane left wingers who have a serious victim complex.
So it isn't like those type of left wingers don't exist.
I didn’t take that post to say they don’t exist as individuals. But they don’t have their own media outlets, or group names, it just isn’t the same. Of course individuals like this exist, there are plenty of examples even here.
I’d say I’m more left leaning, and I honestly think I call out left leaning posters more often than right. I can’t stand inflated bull#### that pushes people away from coming together on some issues, and it makes me significantly more angry when it’s coming from my side of the table. I don’t see that reciprocated for these right wing extremist groups. More often than not it’s “yeah well, reach across the aisle yourself first”.
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