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			11-03-2020, 09:05 PM
			
			
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				Is there a reason I should treat this with suspicion? 
			
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It's ####ing Fox News?
 
Honestly I think the reason is that they haven't updated their projections as the vote has come in.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				How many different groups can you call idiots for supporting Trump before realizing you aren't doing what is necessary to win their votes? 
			
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I still think the Democrats needed someone who could shout back at Trump. Should have just went all in on Sanders to show the progressives they tried haha.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-03-2020, 09:06 PM
			
			
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				How are pollsters going to recover from this? They said they corrected their errors from 2016. Clearly their models and methodologies are still deeply flawed. 
			
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LOL. It is not done yet.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-03-2020, 09:06 PM
			
			
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				How are pollsters going to recover from this? They said they corrected their errors from 2016. Clearly their models and methodologies are deeply flawed. 
			
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Depends on the outcome
 
If Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Iowa, North Carolina are all within 3% and Biden wins then you would say it’s fine.
 
We don’t know how far out the polls were except in Florida which had a polling error that was identified as a risk before the election.
 
But it could be that polling error is 5% and therefore not that predictive in US politics.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				How are pollsters going to recover from this? They said they corrected their errors from 2016. Clearly their models and methodologies are still deeply flawed. 
			
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Who knows.  Some were right, especially on Florida.
 
Maybe we put too much stock on what those polls say.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Against my better judgement, I checked the probability dials on the Fox News website. As of this writing, they have Biden at 80% to win Georgia, 89% to win Ohio, and 95% to win North Carolina.  
 
Is there a reason I should treat this with suspicion, or has Biden closed this out? 
			
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Trump currently has a 12 point lead in GA, 3 point lead in OH and is virtually tied in NC (<3k votes)... I don't get it   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Why is Iowa not reporting any results but all the states around them are, even if only 20% reporting?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-03-2020, 09:07 PM
			
			
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				128k vote lead for Trump in OH. 
			
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Zoom in on the county level. Most of the red areas have nearly finished reporting. The blue areas (big cities like Cleveland, Cincinnati, etc.) where Biden has huge leads are only around ~55% reporting. I'm actually feeling kind of bullish on Ohio now, but I'm probably going to be Charlie Brown trying to kick the football before the night is over.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-03-2020, 09:07 PM
			
			
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				Against my better judgement, I checked the probability dials on the Fox News website. As of this writing, they have Biden at 80% to win Georgia, 89% to win Ohio, and 95% to win North Carolina.  
 
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I feel like they are just putting that out to make Democrats sad when Trump wins them.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Remember when I got #### on for saying Trump was smart? 
			
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			Trump has officially taken the lead in North Carolina. Academic, but there it is.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Trump currently has a 12 point lead in GA, 3 point lead in OH and is virtually tied in NC (<3k votes)... I don't get it    
			
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You have to look at what areas have reported their votes and what areas are still outstanding. In all three cases, it appears that the votes from blue strongholds are still to be counted while the red vote is almost entirely in.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. 
 
That's all I can say at this hour. Still very early. 
			
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Thats why I don't sit down to watch until 9-10.
 
Why put yourself through those early hours sitting around, no need and just puts extra tension on yourself getting worked up over the first quarter of the results.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I still think the Democrats needed someone who could shout back at Trump. Should have just went all in on Sanders to show the progressives they tried haha. 
			
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Or maybe not go so all in on certain aspects of progressive policy?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Zoom in on the county level. Most of the red areas have nearly finished reporting. The blue areas (big cities like Cleveland, Cincinnati, etc.) where Biden has huge leads are only around ~55% reporting. I'm actually feeling kind of bullish on Ohio now, but I'm probably going to be Charlie Brown trying to kick the football before the night is over. 
			
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The other thing to keep in mind is that if Biden is at all close in Ohio, Trump isn’t winning Pennsylvania.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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The Latino vote doesn't appear to be going very well for him, I'm starting to doubt.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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