2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Of the goalies who are under contract, who is the most interesting?
Matt Murray
MAF
Rask
Bishop
Merzlikins
Korpisalo
Andersen
Kuemper
Dubnyk

Murray and the Columbus goalies are the only ones I'd have any interest in from that list.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

On Friedman's podcast, he says that the Hanifin rumors stem from when the Flames offered Hanifin and Bennett to NJ for Hall and Vatanen. He says that he doesn't think Bennett is available anymore as he is part of what the Flames are trying to move forward.

This gives me faith in what Tree will do this off-season.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

If Dallas re-signs Khudobin, as they are rumored to want to do, Bishop becomes the most interesting trade target immediately. I remember reading an opinion article about how Dallas could maintain the momentum into next year, and bringing in a top six winger was identified as a major 'want'. Johnny was disregarded, as Dallas not having the assets to make that happen.

But if Bisop is suddenly in play... Bishop, their 1st and Ty Dellandrea would probably work for me.

Yuck. I don't want any part of Bishop let alone for Gaudreau. The Stars already spank us enough without giving them Johnny. The 1st is way too late. Ty is nice but not that nice.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

On Friedman's podcast, he says that the Hanifin rumors stem from when the Flames offered Hanifin and Bennett to NJ for Hall and Vatanen. He says that he doesn't think Bennett is available anymore as he is part of what the Flames are trying to move forward.

Well, hopefully Bennett shows up next year. Because if he doesn't, then this is a MASSIVE opportunity lost. His value right now is highest it has been over the past few years.

Before people were okay with Bennett being traded but said his value was low... Now, his value is fine so why not go ahead and make the move.

I mean, I hope it works out but I also think this can be a lost opportunity.

[Crown Royal]

I would be perfectly okay with trading Bennett. I actually think the Pens might bite at Bennett for Murray

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Yuck. I don't want any part of Bishop let alone for Gaudreau. The Stars already spank us enough without giving them Johnny. The 1st is way too late. Ty is nice but not that nice.

Bishops SV% is inflated due to his size. Yes, that works out in the long run of a season, odds are he will be in front of most shots.

But, he isn’t, and never has, been the guy to make a couple big saves to win a game.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

I would be perfectly okay with trading Bennett. I actually think the Pens might bite at Bennett for Murray

Murray is trending down faster than any goalie I can think of in recent years. To go from what he was to what he is - and then to listen to the goalie guru on the Fan 960 absolutely destroy his game from a fundamentals perspective was eye opening.

I’m not sure we should be looking at Murray.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

I would be perfectly okay with trading Bennett. I actually think the Pens might bite at Bennett for Murray

I would think they would jump on that. But why would the Flames?

There are multiple goalies better than Murray available in free agency

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Murray is trending down faster than any goalie I can think of in recent years. To go from what he was to what he is - and then to listen to the goalie guru on the Fan 960 absolutely destroy his game from a fundamentals perspective was eye opening.

I’m not sure we should be looking at Murray.

I'm sure - we shouldn't

[sureLoss]

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Treliving says the goaltending market right now is as fluid as he can remember.

“I thought David was excellent early. I thought Cam was excellent late. Goaltending was a strength in the playoffs. Returning the same goaltenders next season is not necessarily a bad thing. #Flames

[dino7c]

Well Tre can't really say "our goalies blew the biggest game of the year and we are desperate for an upgrade"

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Treliving says the goaltending market right now is as fluid as he can remember.

“I thought David was excellent early. I thought Cam was excellent late. Goaltending was a strength in the playoffs. Returning the same goaltenders next season is not necessarily a bad thing. #Flames

I agree. I look at Cam Talbot's numbers. That guy can be a number 1. And I think David might have an extra gear too. Plus, it would likely be a cheap tandem, could be about what it would cost to sign Markstrom alone. That would leave space to improve other areas.

[mrdonkey]

Why make changes? Everything is great.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Re-signing Brodie will dramatically narrow Treliving’s options for other core-changing deals.

Fair but still doesn't mean that people are celebrating no changes to the core.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Well Tre can't really say "our goalies blew the biggest game of the year and we are desperate for an upgrade"

I think this is more of a "we don't think we are getting any of the big names so, yeah" kind of comment.

[dammage79]

RE: Bennett. Makes sense they plan on keeping him. I think they've found the coach that will put him at center and leave him there. Mostly 3C.

Goalies: I suspect they keep one goalie over the other depending on who they acquire. If they get Murray or the CLB goalies, they'll re up Talbot for the vet presence. If they get a holtby or Crawford, they'll keep Ritter. Makes sense to me. If they get a Young goalie, I dont think they'll gamble that both young guys lose their way.

[GS Skier]

Originally Posted by getbak

Murray and the Columbus goalies are the only ones I'd have any interest in from that list.

One more time for those of you who missed it. 13 of 14 cup winning goalies ALL drafted ro aquired from Europe and developed by their own teams.

20072008 Detroit Osgood 3rd rd
20082009 Pittsburgh Fluery 1st rd
20092010 Chicago Niemi FA Finland
20102011 XBostonX XThomasX 9th Rd Quebec
20112012 LA Quick 3rd rd
20122013 Chicago Crawford 2nd rd
2013-2014 LA Quick 3rd rd
2014-2015 Chicago Crawford 2nd rd
2015-2016 Pittsburgh Murray 3rd rd
2016-2017 Pittsburgh Murray 3rd rd
20172018 Washington Holtby 4th rd
20182019 St Louis Binnington 3rd rd
2019 020 Tampa?? Vasilevskji?? 1st rd

Stop wasting pretend GM money on "big name goalies".

[GS Skier]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

Please stop posting this like it is ####ing gospel. Yes that is the current trend, keyword being CURRENT. It's completely normal to see trends like this, then have another decade stretch where almost the exact opposite happens. The most import thing is not paying too much for your goaltenders so you can make the rest of your roster deeper.

The point is its a waste of money to "buy a big name goalie". Sorry it mucks up your pretend GM posts.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GS Skier

One more time for those of you who missed it. 13 of 14 cup winning goalies ALL drafted ro aquired from Europe and developed by their own teams.

20072008 Detroit Osgood 3rd rd
20082009 Pittsburgh Fluery 1st rd
20092010 Chicago Niemi FA Finland
20102011 XBostonX XThomasX 9th Rd Quebec
20112012 LA Quick 3rd rd
20122013 Chicago Crawford 2nd rd
2013-2014 LA Quick 3rd rd
2014-2015 Chicago Crawford 2nd rd
2015-2016 Pittsburgh Murray 3rd rd
2016-2017 Pittsburgh Murray 3rd rd
20172018 Washington Holtby 4th rd
20182019 St Louis Binnington 3rd rd
2019 020 Tampa?? Vasilevskji?? 1st rd

Stop wasting pretend GM money on "big name goalies".

If you keep saying it, it might start to matter!

Question: if we traded for Vasilevski, would he no longer be a goalie you can win with?

[Teroy]

[QUOTE=Enoch Root;7590941]If you keep saying it, it might start to matter!

It does matter. It just doesn't fit into your opinions.