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			A friend and I were having a conversation, what if your team got something like the 7 pick overall and both Drysdale and askarov were on the board, who would you take?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-19-2020, 10:25 AM
			
			
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			Askarov all day long
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-19-2020, 11:15 AM
			
			
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			I take Drysdale over askarov. But I doubt Drysdale would be there at 7 so would take askarov
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-19-2020, 11:54 AM
			
			
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				Lapierre is definitely interesting - he could absolutely be a late hit. Dude only played 48 games in his D-1 and 19 games in his D-0 year, so no one really has a full read on him. Could be a "home run" swing at 19. 
			
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if I recall thats how the Flames ended up with Backlund - teams scared of him because of injuries in his junior career
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-19-2020, 01:17 PM
			
			
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				I take Drysdale over askarov. But I doubt Drysdale would be there at 7 so would take askarov 
			
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Agree with this. No way Drysdale makes it to 7.  Askarov can go in the 7-13 range.  But as a Flame, I think I take him. 
 
We need to solidify our future goaltending. 
 
If he makes it to 12/13, I wonder if 19 and 50 gets it done to move up and pick him
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-19-2020, 01:26 PM
			
			
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			Id be pretty pumped if the Flames not only burned their 1st round pick, but their 1st AND 2nd round picks on a Russian goalie.  
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			09-19-2020, 01:58 PM
			
			
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			Askarov is always so in control. He looks just like Carey Price.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-19-2020, 06:59 PM
			
			
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			I did some looking up on the D men on Buttons poll list. Yeah Justin Barron screams Flames pick. I wouldnt be too upset but the rest of them, yeah no. 
 
Still want one of those Right shor forwards or Amirov tbh. But if they reach (sort of) down for Barron, I'd be okay with that. 
 
Something tells me he may go really high though. Slim pickins for D men and all.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			09-20-2020, 01:24 AM
			
			
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			Yeah, with the exciting group of forwards that will be available at our pick, it would be a little disappointing to see them draft a D-man. The last few picks of the first round and the second and third rounds are for Defense. Justin Barron is interesting though-he was pegged to be a high first-rounder, but didn't quite show his stuff, possibly due to injury.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			09-20-2020, 09:32 AM
			
			
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			Assuming we don’t get Askarov and if BPA are close, I’d want a center with our first rounder and a D man with our 2nd rounder and A goalie with our 4th rounder
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-20-2020, 10:05 AM
			
			
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				I did some looking up on the D men on Buttons poll list. Yeah Justin Barron screams Flames pick. I wouldnt be too upset but the rest of them, yeah no. 
 
Still want one of those Right shor forwards or Amirov tbh. But if they reach (sort of) down for Barron, I'd be okay with that. 
 
Something tells me he may go really high though. Slim pickins for D men and all. 
			
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Buttons poll list doesn't make sense. His list is all d-men. Most of them will be late first to early 2nd picks. Just because they have not drafted a d man in a while, doesnt mean they have to take one at 19.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-20-2020, 04:06 PM
			
			
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			https://############.com/2020/09/20/...edium=facebook
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				As much as Askarov is appearing to be one of the next great goaltenders, I think the Oilers should avoid drafting him if he were to fall to t4th overall. While Askarov would fill a huge spot in the Oilers organization, there’s other, much larger holes that could be addressed through the first round of the draft.
			
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In case anyone was feeling bad about any direction the Flames might take.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-20-2020, 04:24 PM
			
			
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			Has anyone organized the 1st round into tiers yet? I am interested to see what it looks like.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-20-2020, 07:04 PM
			
			
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				Buttons poll list doesn't make sense. His list is all d-men. Most of them will be late first to early 2nd picks. Just because they have not drafted a d man in a while, doesnt mean they have to take one at 19. 
			
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Plus, the fact that they haven't drafted a d-man in a long time shows that they are truly focused on drafting the BPA when their spot in the draft comes up.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-20-2020, 09:15 PM
			
			
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				My Personal Tiers for Draft 2020
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Tier One 
Alexis Lafreničre 
 
Tier Two 
Quinton Byfield 
Tim Stützle 
 
Tier Three 
Cole Perfetti 
Lucas Raymond 
Jamie Drysdale 
Alexander Holtz 
Marco Rossi 
Yaroslav Askarov 
Anton Lundell 
 
Tier Four 
Jake Sanderson (could be tier 3) 
Dawson Mercer 
Braden Schneider 
Jack Quinn 
Kaiden Guhle 
Seth Jarvis 
Hendix Lapierre 
Dylan Holloway 
Rodion Amirov 
Connor Zary 
 
Tier Five 
Lucas Reichel 
Jacob Perreault 
Ridly Greig 
John-Jason Peterka 
Mavrik Bourque 
Justin Barron 
Noel Gunler 
William Wallinder 
Brendan Brisson 
Marat Khusnutdinov 
Jan Myšák 
 
Notable 2nd Round 
Jake Neighbours 
Shakir Mukhamadullin 
Helge Grans 
Tyson Foerster 
Yan Kuznetsov 
Ozzy Wiesblatt 
Alex Cotton 
 
Others Have Come up in Conversation 
Jean-Luc Foudy 
Jan Bednar 
Jack Finley 
Dmitri Zlodeyev 
Tristen Robins 
 
This is how I currently see the tiers playing out, and the value of trading into a certain spot. I am in no way an expert, and this is roughly based on how I hear other people talking.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-20-2020, 09:21 PM
			
			
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			I think that order is off, but the tiers look pretty good. 
I would swap Lundell and Quinn. I don't think Guhle and Lapierre are very good, but a lot of people seem to have them around there. Lucas Raymond is a bit of a wild card.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			09-20-2020, 09:21 PM
			
			
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			Lapierre could be anywhere honestly. Biggest draft question mark since Kylington. 
 
Personally I would have Jarvis in tier 3.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Lime is pretty close .  
 
Personally tiers 4 and 5 are the same. Jarvis and Quinn should be 3. Thats about all I got to expand on that list. 
 
After Askarov, I think the whole thing goes right off the conventional thinking rails. We are gonna see some crazy "deep pulls". 
 
Like Justin Barron could resume his top tier stats and go top 10. Its gonna be a great draft but a wackey one.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			09-20-2020, 09:46 PM
			
			
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				Has anyone organized the 1st round into tiers yet? I am interested to see what it looks like. 
			
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I'll take a stab, everybody can weigh in:
 
Tier1:Lafreniere/Byfield/Stutzle
 
Tier2:Rossi/Raymond/Drysdale/Perfetti/Askarov
 
Tier3:Holtz/Lundell
 
Tier4: Sanderson/Jarvis/Mercer
 
Tier5: Quinn/Amirov/Holloway
 
Tier 6: Gunler/Schneider/Zary/Bourque/Guhle/Perrault/Lapierre/Foerster
 
Tier 7: Mysak/Grans/Wallinder/Brisson/Barron/Weisblatt/Poirier
 
Tier 8:Peterka/Reichel/Hirvonen/Kusnutdinov/Greig/Nybeck/Neighbors/Colangelo/Jurmo/Tuch/Mukhamadullin/Viro/Dufour
 
Just my opinion.
 
Edit: My apologies, I wasn't aware of HL's list-must've posted as I was typing...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			09-20-2020, 10:20 PM
			
			
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			Sanderson could be tier 3...I think he could be the top dman that goes. Was listening to a podcast today and who described it as do you want Ryan McDonough (Sanderson) or Kevin Shattekirk (Drysdale)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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