2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by klikitiklik

I'll take a Nucks fan over an oiler fan any day of the week

Fortunately, there are fewer of them, but I find Canuck fans to be worse.

Regardless, it is like comparing shyt with pike.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1998237

LD RD
Mark Giordano Alex Pietrangelo
Noah Hanifin Rasmus Andersson
Juuso Valimaki Oliver Kylington

That does look pretty pretty pretty good. Mackie is ready to take a step into the left side, too.

[Husky]

With the emergence og the younger RH def, wonder if Rangers would deal Trouba (with salary retained).

[PegCityFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Husky

With the emergence og the younger RH def, wonder if Rangers would deal Trouba (with salary retained).

Good lord why?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

LD RD
Mark Giordano Alex Pietrangelo
Noah Hanifin Rasmus Andersson
Juuso Valimaki Oliver Kylington

That does look pretty pretty pretty good. Mackie is ready to take a step into the left side, too.

From a cap perspective, I’d trade Hanifin and shoot for the Hamonic return.

Giordano - Andersson
Valimaki - Pietrangelo
Mackey - Kylington
Solid veteran UFA as the 6th/7th.

Pietrangelo is so good, you trust Valimaki/Mackey to step in and play with him - and learn from him.

[1_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Husky

With the emergence og the younger RH def, wonder if Rangers would deal Trouba (with salary retained).

Pass on Trouba even with retained salary unless it's 5+ million.

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[Heavy Jack]

If the Flames were able to deal Hanifin and Ryan away for a combination of prospects and picks I think the Flames could theoretically bring in all three and hang on to the main part of the core and take a big swing at the cup, it would be really nice to see an all in approach for once rather than maintaining mediocrity. If it doesn’t work out in the next two years be big sellers at the 21/22 trade deadline when prices paid are usually ridiculous.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Hall - Backlund - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Bennett - Dube
Lucic - Gawdin - Phillips

Giordano - Pietrangelo
Valimaki - Andersson
Mackey - Kylington

Markstrom
Rittich

[Heavy Jack]

Thinking more on the lineup above too I’d switch the centers up and have Backlund in the middle of Gaudreau and Lindholm. It would be our version of the Marchand - Bergeron - Pasternak line and while I know the Boston line is superior in comparison I actually think we could apply the same style of play to a trio of Gaudreau - Backlund - Lindholm and see each player benefit from it.

I like the thought of Monahan playing between Hall and Tkachuk as well, I think it would help add some grit to Monahan’s game who could also easily find the quiet areas in the slot and around the net with Hall and Tkachuk creating havoc.

Gaudreau - Backlund - Lindholm
Hall - Monahan - Tkachuk

That is an extremely well balanced top 6 IMO with the biggest detractor being just the one right hand shot.

[David Struch]

Hall (7.0) - Backlund - Tkachuk
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Dubé - Bennett - Mangiapane (2.25)
Lucic - Gawdin - Phillips
Reider (.700)

Pietrangelo (9.0) - Andersson
Välimäki - Forbort (3.33)
Mackey - Kylington (.790)
Stone (.700)

Markstrom (4.85)
Rittich

Cap Hit: $80,745,832
Buyouts: $2,666,667
Bonuses: $882,500
Cap Space: $754,168

[Harry Lime]

Peitrangelo is a RD, making the top of LD Valimaki/Mackie/Forbort.

I think that whatever way you play it, one of Hanifin or Gioradano simply has to stay, and Gaudreau has to leave because after this offseason his contract basically transforms him into a rental.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Hall (7.0) - Backlund - Tkachuk
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Dubé - Bennett - Mangiapane (2.25)
Lucic - Gawdin - Phillips
Reider (.700)

Pietrangelo (9.0) - Andersson
Välimäki - Forbort (3.33)
Mackey - Kylington (.790)
Stone (.700)

Markstrom (4.85)
Rittich

Cap Hit: $80,745,832
Buyouts: $2,666,667
Bonuses: $882,500
Cap Space: $754,168

This is proof that it doesn't work - no 4th line, and only 2 1/2 defensemen

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Fortunately, there are fewer of them, but I find Canuck fans to be worse.

Regardless, it is like comparing shyt with pike.

Sup.

[TheScorpion]

Wait. That lineup isn't possibly projecting the Flames pay Derek Forbort $3.33 million per season?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Hall (7.0) - Backlund - Tkachuk
Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Dubé - Bennett - Mangiapane (2.25)
Lucic - Gawdin - Phillips
Reider (.700)

Pietrangelo (9.0) - Andersson
Välimäki - Forbort (3.33)
Mackey - Kylington (.790)
Stone (.700)

Markstrom (4.85)
Rittich

Cap Hit: $80,745,832
Buyouts: $2,666,667
Bonuses: $882,500
Cap Space: $754,168

I think it’s sweet you think this ownership group is going to add the three biggest free agents by position in a year without fans.

Keep the dream alive.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I think it’s sweet you think this ownership group is going to add the three biggest free agents by position in a year without fans.

Keep the dream alive.

If the Flames could get all those guys to sign those deals they would

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

As an interesting aside, I live in Chilliwack, and it is surprising how many Flames fans there are here.

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Is that, that surprising? It's not like we're on the other side of the country from Calgary.

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Just in case people forgot what Canucks fans were like when they see a modicum of success.

Get bent.

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

^^I like this post, the Canucks fans are just so desperate in all of this.

Uhhh, yeah sure. "Desperate." I'd describe desperate as watching games and trying to convince one's self that Quinn Hughes isn't very good.

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

"Maybe Calgary should sign Hall"... "Nah, he'll go to Colorado"

"Maybe Calgary is interested in Pietrangelo"... "Nah, he'll go to Colorado"

"Maybe Calgary wants Markstrom"... "Nah, he'll go to Colorado"

Ugh. Talk about tiresome.

Not sure about the other two, but Colorado's achilles heel in all this is goaltending and they have pokers in the fire on Markstrom. He's an ideal fit for their needs.

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Demko was amazing in the playoffs. But aren't you a bit nervous to have him just be the guy if Markstrom walks. He hasn't been all that awesome for long stretches.

Not at all. Demko was amazing at the AHL level before coming up. I believe he will adapt.

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It is not all that unusual to see a goalie come out of nowhere and to put together a dazzling performance for a few playoff games. I would argue that it is quite a bit more difficult to carry that consitently over the course of a full season

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Again, the difference between Demko and Binnington or Murray is that Demko was expected to be that good. It wasn't really "out of nowhere"

But yes, playing "THAT" well over a full season would be absolutely unreal. I just hope it's got him over that hump of not remembering how to stop a puck in the first five minutes of the game.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Freeway

Sup.

lol

[AC]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Pietrangelo (9.0) - Andersson
Välimäki - Forbort (3.33)
Mackey - Kylington (.790)
Stone (.700)

Forbort for $3.33M?!

Wat. No thanks to the player (LA gets a 3rd instead of a 4th if we re-sign him), especially at 2x his realistic value.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Again, the difference between Demko and Binnington or Murray is that Demko was expected to be that good. It wasn't really "out of nowhere"...

I just don't put any stock into this argument about pedigree when it comes to goalies that were drafted outside the first round. All of these guys were already multiple years removed from the draft, and have had several years of professional development. Yes, in the sense that they were all pro goalies with well established minor league careers before ever starting in tbe NHL playoffs, they ALL came from "out of nowhere."

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[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by AC

Forbort for $3.33M?!

Wat. No thanks to the player (LA gets a 3rd instead of a 4th if we re-sign him), especially at 2x his realistic value.

I would put it closer to 5x.

I see Forbort getting a league-minimum deal somewhere. $3.3 million is absurd.